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re: The FBI ran a child porn site to catch predators, and now the accused are crying

Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56074 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:15 pm to
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I don't even like to look at Tigerdroppings while on my work computer.


same here...I do it at night when in hotels, because it is not blocked by my company. I have never so much as signed on during working hours, though.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48970 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:19 pm to
The agents should be arrested for possession and distribution of child pornography
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113994 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:21 pm to
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This is up there with prostitution stings. Cops provoking crime rather than doing the legwork themselves.



I don't know man. I think its dumb for cops to have prostitution stings. Prostitution will always be around and if someone wants to pay a little money to someone to get them off then who cares? But child porn is another thing.

Setting up a child porn site is not good and I doubt the people who had to set it up, enjoyed doing it, but I think they have to try to catch as many of these sick fricks as possible.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:21 pm to
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Cops provoking crime


No, cops don't create these dealios, their Leaders do

Chiefs/Mayors/FBI/CIA etc

Cops follow orders, they just don't go out and create scenarios to get people. And majority hate to write tickets.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:21 pm to
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No one is going to jail for clicking a blind porn link or accidentally clicking on child porn on something like /b/



Nobody ever has? Or was anyone ever bothered or paid a visit to by police, to clear up the situation? Which would be bad enough.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68053 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:22 pm to
With today's technology they should be able to create fake child porn that does not involve real children.

Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:22 pm to
Same as undercover cops selling drugs. If he opened the website and saw what it was then closed it real quick that's one thing. But if he frequented it he knew what he was doing
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58118 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:22 pm to
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I don't know how I feel about this situation. These sick predators need to be caught but I don't think the FBI should be distributing child porn while children are still in harms way. Thoughts?


There are plenty of ways that the FBI can catch child porn users without being involved with its distribution. There is no justification for this in my mind.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113994 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:23 pm to
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butt stuff costs extra


Speaking from experience?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134871 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:23 pm to
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With today's technology they should be able to create fake child porn that does not involve real children.



Well, then how could they make a case stick if it's not child porn?
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:24 pm to
Cops who are christians that have to watch child pornography during their jobs are going to hell.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:24 pm to
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This is up there with prostitution stings. Cops provoking crime rather than doing the legwork themselves.


Couldnt agree more. Nobody is defending those looking at child porn because they are sick people but this is not an appropriate way to conduct justice in this country.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113994 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:25 pm to
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Cops who are christians that have to watch child pornography during their jobs are going to hell.


Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11352 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:28 pm to
I don't know the particulars of this case, but they usually don't get these guys for the porn they get from the govt, they get them for the massive collection they've already acquired. Downloading from the government simply leads them to your door.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:29 pm to
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I don't know the particulars of this case, but they usually don't get these guys for the porn they get from the govt, they get them for the massive collection they've already acquired. Downloading from the government simply leads them to your door.


And/or tracking them distribute it to others
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64658 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:34 pm to
I'm very conflicted over this one.

On the one hand I'm glad these perverts are being dealt with. And not for the FBI site, they'd have been going to another site just like it. Only difference is they'd get away with it over and over.

But on the other hand, as others have pointed out, it is disturbing to see (1) the government in the kiddie porn business and (2) enticing people to to break the law.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55736 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:37 pm to
Only the FBI could be so unlikable while putting away dangerous criminals.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18481 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:42 pm to
The FBI was using material that was already there. It's not like they produced it. Besides, frick pedophiles. I don't give a shite how victimized they feel.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12928 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:44 pm to
What the FBI actually did in this case is they used a warrant to seize the server hosting The Playpen site and used the software — referred to as a “Network Investigative Tool,” or NIT — to obtain identifying information from people who logged into it.

They basically used the existing website as a confidential informant to lead them to individuals guilty of heinous criminal activity.

Just as with many criminal investigations, they don't immediately shut down all criminal activity once they get in. They infiltrate and observe.

I do not have a problem with this.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:45 pm to
Sounds like another case of the Feds being above the law. Obviously child pornography is a problem and these scumbags need to be locked up....

On the other hand, it's ok for the FBI to distribute and look at child porn, but arrest predators for doing the same thing?
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 7:47 pm
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