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re: The FBI ran a child porn site to catch predators, and now the accused are crying
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:51 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:51 pm to TrueTiger
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With today's technology they should be able to create fake child porn that does not involve real children.
I'm pretty sure I read about some Scandinavian country doing this.
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:07 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:17 pm to Bourre
at least this is better than when they create stings to trap online pedos and there is no actual victim b/c the person talking with the pedo is a grown adult
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:19 pm to Bourre
I think the FBI is distrusting child porn, which they are consequently arresting people for.
There is zero chance I could sit and look at child porn at all, much less as my job. I question the integrity and intent of the officers assigned to this task and I cannot understand how it is not entrapment. There are many other Constitutional means of catching them than to host child porn.
There is zero chance I could sit and look at child porn at all, much less as my job. I question the integrity and intent of the officers assigned to this task and I cannot understand how it is not entrapment. There are many other Constitutional means of catching them than to host child porn.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:19 pm to shawnlsu
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How is tempting people to commit a crime just so you can arrest them legal?
this is basically all of the federal government's terrorism arrests the past 10 years
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:20 pm to TrueTiger
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With today's technology they should be able to create fake child porn that does not involve real children.
it's legal to possess this
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:20 pm to Bourre
Yeah this bullshite next step thought crime
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:24 pm to upgrayedd
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Well, then how could they make a case stick if it's not child porn?
Oh man, I forgot all about that.
Now I recall that SCOTUS ruling that virtual child porn is protected free speech. It does not involve an actual victim.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:25 pm to AUbagman
I don't think you can call this entrapment because that would mean the pedos weren't going to commit a crime and were tricked into doing it. The pedos were going to look for the porm anyway but found the FBI instead. I could be wrong though.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:25 pm to Willie Stroker
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What the FBI actually did in this case is they used a warrant to seize the server hosting The Playpen site and used the software — referred to as a “Network Investigative Tool,” or NIT — to obtain identifying information from people who logged into it.
They basically used the existing website as a confidential informant to lead them to individuals guilty of heinous criminal activity.
Just as with many criminal investigations, they don't immediately shut down all criminal activity once they get in. They infiltrate and observe.
I do not have a problem with this.
Good explanation. I don't have an issue with this
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yep, I totally forgot that case.
Virtual child porn is considered more like a painting or drawing. It's not a real person.
Virtual child porn is considered more like a painting or drawing. It's not a real person.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:27 pm to Pecker
Hearing explanation nevermind on entrapment
Good work FBI
Good work FBI
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:27 pm to TrueTiger
yeah
as icky as it sounds, i truly believe virtual child porn should be the focus for how we rehabilitate/contain these people
as icky as it sounds, i truly believe virtual child porn should be the focus for how we rehabilitate/contain these people
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:28 pm to Bourre
It's not as if the FBI created the kiddie porn/web site.
They took over one so they could shut it down. Why not take a few sickos down with it?
They took over one so they could shut it down. Why not take a few sickos down with it?
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:31 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:not true.
Prostitution stings don't involve kids.
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:37 pm to SG_Geaux
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They took over one so they could shut it down. Why not take a few sickos down with it?
they took over a website and allowed child porn to be distributed from it
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"The government used the child victims as bait to apprehend viewers of child pornography without informing the victims and without the victims' permission — or that of their families," Bryan wrote in his ruling.
This is fricked up
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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at least this is better than when they create stings to trap online pedos and there is no actual victim b/c the person talking with the pedo is a grown adult
What? Are you opposed to all criminal investigations where officers pose as people they are not?
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they took over a website and allowed child porn to be distributed from it
If you value the apprehension of child pornographers, you have to follow the trafficking of these images. Care to identify the better method of capturing them and the likely success rate of that method?
Posted on 1/22/17 at 9:40 pm to Bourre
This is crazy if only because who knows if they'll be able to figure out everyone else a person may have shared these images with before the arrest is made. They more than likely won't be able to, so they're going to have people distributing child porn to others people who won't be caught. It's completely stupid and insane. They're literally spreading even more child porn around to catch a few people.
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