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The Environmental Wack Job’s war on motorcycles in England. An example of the lunacy
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:39 am
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:39 am
Now obviously motorcycles do not click everyone’s boxes or fit everyone’s needs, but it is quite difficult for me to understand how anyone could be sold out to climate change, and reducing the global carbon footprint and yet reluctant to encourage more motorcycle transportation, and yet that is exactly what many environmental wack jobs in Europe have declared war upon. Below are clearly a few net benefits off the top of my head to having more motorcycles on the roads to that of cars and trucks:
- A fraction of the carbon footprint to that of even a tiny combustion engine car, which significantly reduces air pollution.
- Gas mileage is absurdly better, even double to that of a car or truck, which would significantly reduce our energy consumption, and natural resources we pump out of the earth.
- Takes up less mass to that of a car or truck and would thus decrease traffic congestion and improve the sheer amount of air pollution overall because people would be getting to and fro much faster.
- Significantly reduces that amount of space necessary for parking.
- Puts significantly less wear and tear on our roads to that of larger vehicles traversing our streets.
Again, this is not necessarily an appeal for more and more motorcycles, although I do see that as a net benefit, as well as probably a more polite society on the roads less fixated on the TV phone in front of their faces as they drive, and their vehicle as some impenetrable force field, and much more focused on safety and the task at hand in front of them. What this is however, is a very obvious attack on anything that uses petroleum as a means of power for transportation. This can be no more clearly demonstrated IMO than in England for example which is proposing an all out ban on all motorcycles that are 125 cc’s and smaller by the year 2030, and since those smaller displacement engines consume the least of all motorcycles and are the most fuel efficient of all vehicles, why would you start there if your intent is to reduce the carbon footprint overall?
I smell draconian agendas to make the rich richer. How could I not? I say this in light of these wack jobs pushing for ever more green zones in England which strictly regulates or even bans any and all vehicles from entering certain areas of the country, as if people won’t just drive around those areas and produce the same amount of carbon still, even more given the increasing amount of congestion and miles it takes them to get to their destination. None of this makes sense. Can anyone help me wrap my head around this insanity?
- A fraction of the carbon footprint to that of even a tiny combustion engine car, which significantly reduces air pollution.
- Gas mileage is absurdly better, even double to that of a car or truck, which would significantly reduce our energy consumption, and natural resources we pump out of the earth.
- Takes up less mass to that of a car or truck and would thus decrease traffic congestion and improve the sheer amount of air pollution overall because people would be getting to and fro much faster.
- Significantly reduces that amount of space necessary for parking.
- Puts significantly less wear and tear on our roads to that of larger vehicles traversing our streets.
Again, this is not necessarily an appeal for more and more motorcycles, although I do see that as a net benefit, as well as probably a more polite society on the roads less fixated on the TV phone in front of their faces as they drive, and their vehicle as some impenetrable force field, and much more focused on safety and the task at hand in front of them. What this is however, is a very obvious attack on anything that uses petroleum as a means of power for transportation. This can be no more clearly demonstrated IMO than in England for example which is proposing an all out ban on all motorcycles that are 125 cc’s and smaller by the year 2030, and since those smaller displacement engines consume the least of all motorcycles and are the most fuel efficient of all vehicles, why would you start there if your intent is to reduce the carbon footprint overall?
I smell draconian agendas to make the rich richer. How could I not? I say this in light of these wack jobs pushing for ever more green zones in England which strictly regulates or even bans any and all vehicles from entering certain areas of the country, as if people won’t just drive around those areas and produce the same amount of carbon still, even more given the increasing amount of congestion and miles it takes them to get to their destination. None of this makes sense. Can anyone help me wrap my head around this insanity?
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 8:00 am
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:41 am to Mike da Tigah
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This can be no more clearly demonstrated IMO than in England for example which is proposing an all out ban on all motorcycles that are 125 cc’s and smaller by the year 2030, and since those smaller displacement engines consume the least of all motorcycles and are the most fuel efficient of all vehicles, why would you start there if your intent is to reduce the carbon footprint overall?
What are their emmisions? Fuel efficient is only one part of the equation.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:43 am to Mike da Tigah
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probably a more polite society on the roads
Motorcyclists are some of the biggest assholes on the road
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:44 am to fightin tigers
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What are their emmisions? Fuel efficient is only one part of the equation.
Mostly scooters I’d say. Let’s take the Honda Metropolitan for example, a 49 cc engine that gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 117 MPG.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:45 am to Topwater Trout
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Motorcyclists are some of the biggest assholes on the road
Well I would rather be around the hells angels than one looney environmentalist cultist. Weird fricks.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:45 am to Mike da Tigah
Lemme just give you some advice from a forum connoisseur. You need to put
As the first thing in your post. If you make me read halfway through your third paragraph to get to your thesis statement imma just post something about 350 and be on my way
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England for example which is proposing an all out ban on all motorcycles that are 125 cc’s and smaller by the year 2030
As the first thing in your post. If you make me read halfway through your third paragraph to get to your thesis statement imma just post something about 350 and be on my way
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:46 am to Topwater Trout
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Motorcyclists are some of the biggest assholes on the road
Right behind cyclists.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:49 am to Mike da Tigah
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Mostly scooters I’d say. Let’s take the Honda Metropolitan for example, a 49 cc engine that gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 117 MPG.
Does the fuel efficency comes at the expense of higher emissions?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:54 am to fightin tigers
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Does the fuel efficency comes at the expense of higher emissions?
They all have to comply with emission standards set by their country as any other vehicle has to or it cannot be driven.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:04 am to Mike da Tigah
Good. People think driving a motorcycle makes them a real man but I roll coal on them all day. You’re not a real man unless you drive a diesel
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:05 am to el Gaucho
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Good. People think driving a motorcycle makes them a real man but I roll coal on them all day. You’re not a real man unless you drive a diesel
Yeah, wooo!
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:09 am to Mike da Tigah
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They all have to comply with emission standards set by their country as any other vehicle has to or it cannot be driven.
Well yeah, but emissions standards are a lot more lax for motorcycles.
They could tighten the standards on motorcycles. If that is possible.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:21 am to fightin tigers
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Well yeah, but emissions standards are a lot more lax for motorcycles.
They could tighten the standards on motorcycles. If that is possible.
From what I’ve seen via youtube, or admittedly little reading I’ve put in on the matter, all new motorcycles have to be Euro 5 compliant as all other vehicles have to be as well. Now, I’m sure there are older motorcycles and vehicles still on the road that are not, but I want to say they had a grace period to be updated to the new standards. Regardless, going forward, I’m pretty sure they all have to abide by the new emission standard or they cannot be sold there.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:43 am to Mike da Tigah
The eco-terrorists have one goal. Their ultimate goal is to have everyone on foot.
I like motorcycles and would have and ride one daily except for one fact: people who drive cars/trucks do not see motorcycles and thus hit and kill them.
I like motorcycles and would have and ride one daily except for one fact: people who drive cars/trucks do not see motorcycles and thus hit and kill them.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:06 am to el Gaucho
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Good. People think driving a motorcycle makes them a real man but I roll coal on them all day. You’re not a real man unless you drive a diesel
You’re a Coyote alter.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:12 am to Mike da Tigah
I guess it’s time to buy a motorcycle.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:19 am to Mike da Tigah
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I smell draconian agendas to make the rich richer. How could I not? I say this in light of these wack jobs pushing for ever more green zones in England
I think you have answered your own question.
Coyote isn't a patch on el Gaucho's arse.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:23 am to fightin tigers
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What are their emmisions? Fuel efficient is only one part of the equation.
I'm talking completely out of my arse, but I have a hard time believing that even with absurdly relaxed emissions regulations that a motorcycle is anywhere near the same realm as a regular car.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:26 am to el Gaucho
quote:Nah...a real man does both because he commands everything.
People think driving a motorcycle makes them a real man but I roll coal on them all day. You’re not a real man unless you drive a diesel
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