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re: The education data out of Mississippi is getting more insane. They have zoomed past CA

Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:08 am to
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13501 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:08 am to
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How in the hell did they get away from phonics based teaching?

The usual way, some politicians brother-in-law was selling a non-phonics curriculum.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19416 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:09 am to
Parents aren’t reading with their kids.

You actually have to help your kids too with stuff like math and reading.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4499 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:09 am to
This! My daughter is in kindergarten at a charter school here in Baton Rouge. The teacher is teaching phonics based. I also work with her at home on the phonics and she is picking up pretty easy.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10861 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:17 am to
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The education data out of Mississippi is getting more insane. They have zoomed past CA


this is not surprising. California and other liberal states are banning gifted programs, teaching how math is racist and other crap that is ruining their children’s education. All the while southern states like Mississippi just continue to teach.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31217 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:19 am to
I had never realized until recently that places have done away with phonics and it makes no sense. Why?
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9581 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:28 am to
Americas terrible education system is done on purpose.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38637 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:28 am to
Teacher and educational unions have always actively opposed the betterment of the students - because that would require effort by teachers.
This post was edited on 9/27/25 at 11:43 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
43978 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:30 am to
Louisiana adopted the similar plan as Mississippi, but the New Orleans schools are exempt. Since their are no public schools in the city.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13952 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:36 am to
But were more than happy to force commonly retarded core math down everyone’s throats
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10463 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:46 am to
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All that and MS teachers among the lowest paid and CA among the highest. MS students among the least affluent and CA among the most.
quote:

shutterspeed

Don't complain. Move
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9954 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:46 am to
Mississippi is becoming the brother that eventually escapes the ghetto and turns out to live a successful life.

While Louisiana is still living with its parents on food stamps.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71139 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:47 am to
That entire article is really worth reading.

LINK
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6256 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:47 am to
This is awesome. Let’s keep it on the DL though. Coastal MS is a hidden gem. I tell my in-laws (they’re from the Midwest) that the Mississippi coast is one of my favorite places on earth and they just don’t get it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71139 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:48 am to
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While Louisiana is still living with its parents on food stamps.

Louisiana is a focus in the article.

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Mississippi’s success is exciting. But perhaps even more exciting is that other states have achieved strong results with the same basic playbook. Louisiana clawed its way from 49th in the 2019 state rankings to 32nd (in fourth grade, where reforms are often visible the soonest, it went from 42nd in 2022 to 16th). Tennessee made it into the top 25 states for the first time.


You should read it.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32633 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:49 am to
The person or people responsible for the change in Mississippi’s education system should be getting massive awards. Like Presidential type awards. This is incredible and it continues to compound on itself and disprove all of the things that have been said about public education for the last decade
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31400 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:50 am to
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this is not surprising. California and other liberal states are banning gifted programs, teaching how math is racist and other crap that is ruining their children’s education. All the while southern states like Mississippi just continue to teach.

People need to stop politicizing the reading issue because it blurs the actual point: “whole language” is a bullshite method to teach kids to read. Phonics before it and science of reading after (basically phonics+) are both vastly superior. Now, California is clinging to whole language for arguably political reasons (basically it’s better for kids who already speak another language), but that’s tangential to the fact that whole language is bullshite and needs to die.
This post was edited on 9/27/25 at 11:51 am
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
36828 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:50 am to
This was never that hard

Failure is not to be tolerated. When it is, everyone suffers

Hold the kids back who can’t read until they can

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31400 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:54 am to
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This was never that hard Failure is not to be tolerated. When it is, everyone suffers Hold the kids back who can’t read until they can

You can hold them back as long as you want; whole language is a garbage way to teach kids to read.
Posted by bogart
Member since Dec 2013
1340 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:55 am to
Getting all the illegals out will make a big difference.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5094 posts
Posted on 9/27/25 at 12:02 pm to
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What’s the other way they’ve been teaching?



According to the article the use the "whole language" method that encourages students to vaguely guess at words based on context instead of figuring them out sound-by-sound.

Looking into that further starts to peel back the layers of the onion.

LINK

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The “whole language” approach got its start in the 1800s through Horace Mann, a politician who is today widely known as “the father of American education.” A fierce advocate for literacy and education, Mann warned against teaching children to sound out words letter by letter because he worried that it would distract them from the words’ meaning.


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As the American public education system grew and developed, many educators followed Mann’s lead and taught children to memorize the appearance of words instead of teaching them to decode the letters.


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With a literature focus, whole language immersed students in reading and writing, operating under the assumption that learning to read comes naturally, and students would gain the phonics skills they needed within the context of their reading.
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