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re: The Concept of a Planned Death

Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:14 pm to
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As I've gotten older and am now approaching my 40s and middle age this is something I've thought about more. Why is the concept of a planned death so appalling to people? Why are people so against this?

And when I say a planned death I don't mean s*icide. That is a death that is without dignity, without family members around you and typically quite painful since you are doing it yourself.

I know we've talked about it before on this board. Would you want to live forever? Most of us even admit we wouldn't as life would get boring. As an older millennial (38) I'm screwed in terms of retirement. Most millennials, Gen Z's and even some of Gen X will never get to retire in the way Baby Boomers are able to retire.

Besides all that, what is so great about retirement anyway? Work your butt off for 40 years and physically destroy your body to get maybe 5 or 10 years in retirement? Who knows what you'll even be able to do in your 60s and 70s. It's something that I've definitely thought about since the pandemic.

Even my dad has told me a funny story before. My dad asked once (while working at GE) why the mandatory retirement age is 65. The answer he received: Because you'll be dead at 66. That's not retirement, that's putting you out to pasture since you aren't valuable to them anymore.

But my point is all this, with retirement being a mere fantasy for most people at this point, what about the idea of a planned death?

This could be an idea where you simply plan and pick an age. You could say "okay I'm going to plan to die at 60". That lets you plan everything. You could then work until you know you can make it under the planned death. You'll know exactly how much time you have so you can make sure you do everything you want. You can do this before you get the point where health issues might really hurt you and affect your ability to do what you wan in a traditional "retirement".

When your predetermined date comes where you will die, you can do so in comfort and with dignity. You can do it with family and friends by your side and not be alone. You can do it in a pain free way where your last moments will be of peace, not suffering.

What do you think? Do you agree with or are at least receptive to the idea of a planned death? Especially with considerations such as money, health, overpopulation and other concerns should this be an idea that gains traction in our society?




Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:15 pm to
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d you want to live forever?
Also, this is why you to go to college or learn a trade and start a career in your early 20s, work your arse off certainly in your 20s and 30s, so you can make enough money to live and work comfortably as you get into your 40s and on.

What you're explaining is legit for a lot of people, but this is also why you work hard very early on so you aren't one of those people, and you can retire at 60, be as healthy as possible, and have enough money in retirement to enjoy life.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37723 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:15 pm to
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so what is the point of waiting until 60 then?


because he's a troll. He'd find another reason at 60 to not do it. He doesn't want to take responsibility for anything from what I gather. Just likes the attention he gets when playing the role of woe-is-me, sad-sack.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:24 pm to
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because he's a troll. He'd find another reason at 60 to not do it. He doesn't want to take responsibility for anything from what I gather. Just likes the attention he gets when playing the role of woe-is-me, sad-sack.

Yea

If you don't take shite seriously, get a job, move up in your career, make a decent salary, then yea...there's a good chance your life will be pretty darn tough pre and post retirement.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25274 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Op should definitely start planning


OP probably feels this way at 38 but will feel different at 60. It seems far off now but when it gets here i doubt he will be done experiencing life.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8894 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:26 pm to
As soon as I begin to “slip”, I’m going to go be a Christian missionary in North Nigeria. I’ll be martyred in about 20 mins.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7123 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:29 pm to
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I'll admit I'm tired of life but this isn't about suicide. It's about having control of your life.


It's so hard for me to understand this kind of thinking. I'm 60, so much older than you and I feel absolutely the opposite! I want to cram in every damn bit of living I possibly can. I'm planning travel, I exercise, hang out with friends, waiting for my first grandbaby in Oct., enjoying gardening in my yard for the first time ever, and still love my job.

You have lots of time and need to figure out how to do the kind of living you want to do! I cannot imagine someone 50 thinking they don't want to live past 70. Unless you have some truly bad luck healthwise, 70 can be pretty damn good. I feel like 60 is just getting started!
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1799 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18845 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Why should people not have the ability to have a planned death? A death where they take a pill or injection that will simply put them to sleep. A painless death with dignity, surrounded by family and friends in your final moments.


What is stopping anyone from doing this now?
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3256 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:54 pm to
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I'll admit I'm tired of life but this isn't about suicide.
That's exactly what it is.

It's one thing to argue for if you're terminally ill and wanting to call it a day, I'm all for that.

But you're arguing for some dignified death just because you're tired of life, that's just assisted suicide
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38952 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 2:56 pm to
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approaching my 40s


ooof... I hope you're not a lady poster because if so, you should have already started planning
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56893 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:00 pm to
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I already have some health issues. I know by the time I'm in my 60s or 70s my health will be terrible. I'll be far more likely to be the type who will have trachs, tube feedings, wounds everywhere.


You are 38. What are you doing now that makes it "inevitable" that you'll have major health problems later in life? It's never too late to live healthy.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24497 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:01 pm to
After reading this, I agree. You should do it. You sound like a mega beta bitch who shouldn't be burdening all the people around you who enjoy life.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56893 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:02 pm to
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A death where they take a pill or injection that will simply put them to sleep. A painless death with dignity, surrounded by family and friends in your final moments. Is that really too much to ask? I think it's something that is compassionate and something everyone should have the ability to choose.


So you want an audience to your suicide? Suicide, regardless of the age, or how "nice" you think it is to have your family watch you kill yourself, greatly fricks with your ENTIRE FAMILY.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59138 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:04 pm to
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What do you think? Do you agree with or are at least receptive to the idea of a planned death?

Haven't put much thought into it. I don't think I agree with it personally, but I could see where some people do. That said, do what you want, it is your body/life.

I do not ever think it would be highly accepted appreciated amongst the person's friends/family, unless in a terminally ill situation though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:37 pm to
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If you want to know about my situation personally my life just feels very hollow and pointless. I'm single and I've accepted that I'll probably always be single. For a long time that never bothered me but in the last year or two it's bothered me to a big extent. I'm lonely but I'm also not an easy person to get to know. Even my friends joke that I have 25 layers you have to get through. I just know I don't offer anything to this world and everything feels very hollow and pointless. I don't plan to end my life but a lot of times I go to sleep hoping I don't wake up. I am terribly lonely but I also know the chance of me getting into a quality relationship is slim to none.

Dude, therapy ASAP.
Posted by not Jack
Texas
Member since Jan 2018
486 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:41 pm to
I like your concept and am old enough to "get it".
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:41 pm to
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What is stopping anyone from doing this now?

As another poster stated, he wants acceptance and for people to cheer him on that it's the right thing.

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25253 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:50 pm to
Ridiculous.

By the time you’re 60 you’ll probably have grand children.
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