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re: The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:41 pm to CaptainPanic
Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:41 pm to CaptainPanic
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Using one example to describe a student body
No. actually, since we are talking about "cheaters" we are discussing a subset of the overall sample space.
the overall sample space is the student body. Cheaters is our subset of that space.
Maybe you should have not cheated and studied....
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But to associate the act of that one student to an entire roster shows the weaknesses in your teaching and character.
Your failure is epically bad.
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 4:45 pm to CptBengal
I'm a failure but your job is to do something that can be taught by googling 
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:24 pm to anc
A recent thread I started is about this very topic. My kids' county elementary schools weighs minor grades 50% and major grades 50%. That alone is outrageous. But it gets worse. Minor grades involve chapter reviews with simple questions like "What is a rock."
Chapter reviews are 3 to 10 questions. Getting 3 questions correct using the book is worth the same as a 15 question test. Teachers are supposed to give more minor grades, but thus far have generally had more major grades, which gives the minor grades more weight than the major grades. The saddest part is, many of my kids' classmates have D's and F's.
Chapter reviews are 3 to 10 questions. Getting 3 questions correct using the book is worth the same as a 15 question test. Teachers are supposed to give more minor grades, but thus far have generally had more major grades, which gives the minor grades more weight than the major grades. The saddest part is, many of my kids' classmates have D's and F's.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:50 pm to arcalades
Each generation has been consistently more intelligent than the previous one (Flynn Effect). I think some of the hyperbole about students today (as a whole) is inconsistent with reality. There are problems and there are problems within certain segments, but the problems are overstated.
For the people worried about not teaching cursive. It takes up a lot of time, and time is a valuable resource, especially when others skills are being explicitly tested. Cursive has too little practical utility to justify the time needed to teach at the expense of other skills:
For the people worried about not teaching cursive. It takes up a lot of time, and time is a valuable resource, especially when others skills are being explicitly tested. Cursive has too little practical utility to justify the time needed to teach at the expense of other skills:
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:52 pm to anc
Parents who think their little angels are all geniuses.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 5:55 pm to Epic Cajun
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Epic Cajun
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One day you may wish to read the Bible, do you read Aramaic?
The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights are much more important to me.
Might you not want to read the original documents and ascertain for yourself the intent of the authors?
The Bible?
You asked for a reason, I gave one, you refuse to accept.
Good day sir, enjoy your ignorance.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:25 pm to anc
I would guess that it also has a lot to do with the scoring system for schools. Schools get points when kids graduate on time, among other things. This creates a pretty messed up system where those whose jobs depend on this score act a bit shady about grades.
When I was teaching, we were often encouraged to check and recheck to make sure there was nothing we could do to pass a kid. Not to mention, no matter what a student actually made in the first 3-9 weeks, we rounded their report card grade up to a 60. Yes, even if it was a ZERO. Hypothetically, a student could make 0, 0, 0 and then make an 88 in the 4th quarter to pass.
When I was teaching, we were often encouraged to check and recheck to make sure there was nothing we could do to pass a kid. Not to mention, no matter what a student actually made in the first 3-9 weeks, we rounded their report card grade up to a 60. Yes, even if it was a ZERO. Hypothetically, a student could make 0, 0, 0 and then make an 88 in the 4th quarter to pass.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:45 pm to elprez00
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There was a certain teacher at you and I's alma mater that gave bonus points for putting glitter on the cover, bro.
Wow. In a thread about education no less.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:47 pm to anc
It kind of seems that you are enjoying putting your sister in her place, and that is ok ( I can relate)!
Posted on 3/4/15 at 6:56 pm to anc
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Never not made an A in a class.
If only there was an easier way to state this...damn grade inflation
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:01 pm to anc
My problem is that the staff I have hired out of college (including LSU) still can't write!
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:21 pm to Brosef Stalin
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I noticed in my freshman English class in 1998 that about 95% of the rest of the students couldn't write worth a damn. Not to brag but I was easily the smartest person in that class.
That's some nice sentence structure! By the way, you know how I know you tell lies?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:26 pm to CptBengal
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No. actually, since we are talking about "cheaters" we are discussing a subset of the overall sample space. the overall sample space is the student body. Cheaters is our subset of that space.
take that theoretical statistics bullshite somewhere else
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:30 pm to anc
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:30 pm to anc
I mentioned this last week and was not understood. My daughter has never come close to making a B, if she is she just brings something or does bonus work to get her A. She made a 29 on her ACT, so not a dummy, but it is just asinine how easy it is to get an A
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:32 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Epic Cajun
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One day you may wish to read the Bible, do you read Aramaic?
The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights are much more important to me.
Might you not want to read the original documents and ascertain for yourself the intent of the authors?
The Bible?
You asked for a reason, I gave one, you refuse to accept.
Good day sir, enjoy your ignorance.
My point obviously went over your head. The Bill of Rights and Constitution have both been translated into print (by people who understand both print and cursive), therefore you can read these documents without having to read cursive. Do you think there is some sort of conspiracy to change the meaning and/or words of these documents to fool future generations? This isn't "National Treasure" or some wack job movie, this is real life, that shite wouldn't fly.
I used the Bible as an example (with no religious connotation) because it has been translated to over 500 languages.
ETA: in regards to my ignorance, I know how to write in cursive and read in cursive, if you read the entire thread you'd see that. I just think that it's out dated and useless, like much of the other things that we learn as children. I've learned calculus, trigonometry, and algebra II, but I'll never use those in my life either.
I could see cursive as an elective of some sort, but it shouldn't be required.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 3/4/15 at 7:33 pm to islandtiger
Question 1 What is the root cause (s) of your staff"s inability to write effectively?
a) they were taught by people who didn't know how to write themselves
b) they were taught by people too lazy to properly grade written homework and test assignments
c) all of the above
Students cannot write because most assignments and tests require very little actual writing and composition. It's very time consuming to grade papers and tests where students write sentences and paragraphs. Multiple choice and other objective type tests are easier to grade and that's what most teachers assign. Not writing out answers to questions on a regular basis negatively impacts a student's ability to reason and reach conclusions. So not only can they not write, they can't think. It's a shame really.
PS I make this criticism as a former high school teacher and junior college math professor. Oh and don't get me started on online assignments and testing
a) they were taught by people who didn't know how to write themselves
b) they were taught by people too lazy to properly grade written homework and test assignments
c) all of the above
Students cannot write because most assignments and tests require very little actual writing and composition. It's very time consuming to grade papers and tests where students write sentences and paragraphs. Multiple choice and other objective type tests are easier to grade and that's what most teachers assign. Not writing out answers to questions on a regular basis negatively impacts a student's ability to reason and reach conclusions. So not only can they not write, they can't think. It's a shame really.
PS I make this criticism as a former high school teacher and junior college math professor. Oh and don't get me started on online assignments and testing
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:02 pm to anc
Is this the thread where we bitch and complain about the teachers where in reality it is more of the parents problem?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 8:07 pm to lsualum01
I'm surprised by the number of insecure tards in this thread that can't read or write in cursive.
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