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re: The biggest problem in schools that no one is talking about

Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Cursive is dead.



Good. Let's make more Jeantels.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:21 pm to
God.

i miss that trial

that was some of my favorite times on the OT



ETA: SIR!
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:22 pm to
Let's recent back to the 18th century when people gave a shite about how letters looked. Calligraphy is fine and all, but give me a fricking printed note please.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83113 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:23 pm to
Problem is that even if you CAN read cursive, people just scribble and expect you to know what it says. Like I said, I can read proper cursive.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37373 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Bluefin


What is the purpose of learning cursive?

Really, give me one good reason to learn it, and I'll agree with you.

Outside of signing my name, I've only used cursive once since elementary school. That was to write this paragraph before I could take the GRE.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
I grade students to the expected level of the class they are taking.

I offer no extra credit. I take no points off for attendance. If you're in college, it's your choice to show up or not.

The emails I get from parents about their "snowflake" needing extra credit are hilarious....the lies the kids make up are even funnier.

You earn an F, you get one. You earn an A, you get one. If some moron in the class is dumb enough to ask for a curve, I give them a bell curve!
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:28 pm to
So I realize I'm late to the party, but a quick story from my SO yesterday (she's in TFA) that I couldn't believe:

Kid in her class has already failed the grade once and is repeating it. He never shows up, doesn't take tests or complete assignments, etc. All around worthless kid. My SO and another teacher both failed him, obviously, and the mom called and bitched at the principal.

The principal told both of them they had to pass him, which they both refused to do. So the principal manually went into the grade book and gave the kid a D so he would pass.

And we wonder why kids are lazy and stupid (over-exaggeration, not all kids are those things, but you get my point).
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:31 pm to
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ETA: SIR!


One of my favorite threads ever.]

Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13516 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:34 pm to
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What is the purpose of learning cursive?

You answered your own question with this:

quote:

I've only used cursive once since elementary school. That was to write this paragraph before I could take the GRE.

Would you have liked to forfeit the GRE, simply because you couldn't write in cursive?

You don't have to employ a skill all the time in order for it to be valuable. I hope I never come into a situation where I have to actually use the Pythagorean Theorem, but that doesn't mean I don't see the value in learning it.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:37 pm to
damnit

i just started laughing aloud


i think that week or two was the only time i was ever in the top 10 for most posts on the OT


Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:37 pm to
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I hope I never come into a situation where I have to actually use the Pythagorean Theorem, but that doesn't mean I don't see the value in learning it.



to compare a method of transcription that was utilized for speed and aesthetic "beauty" to a fundamental mathematical theorem is fricking absurd.

quote:

Would you have liked to forfeit the GRE, simply because you couldn't write in cursive?


I dont remember writing the GRE in cursive. I tend to use a print/cursive hybrid.

This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83113 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
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I offer no extra credit. I take no points off for attendance. If you're in college, it's your choice to show up or not.



Beyond a class that requires participation/discussion like Critical Theory or something, I don't understand strict attendance rules. If I know I need to come to class to learn (like in a foreign language), I'll come. If I can make an A without coming, why do I deserve a B because you decide you want me in class that I don't need to attend and punish me for it?

It was fine my first couple years of college, but they really got weird as time moved on.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37373 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:39 pm to
There are millions of people who don't take the GRE (the GMAT doesn't require this step, I took both). I don't think they really even checked to ensure that I wrote it correctly or anything. Basically I could have faked writing in cursive if I needed to
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83113 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:40 pm to
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He never shows up, doesn't take tests or complete assignments, etc


I don't know what TFA is. Is this a kid that drives? I ask because doesn't attendance fall on parents?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

. If I can make an A without coming, why do I deserve a B because you decide you want me in class that I don't need to attend and punish me for it?



Well, my tests are based on book and lecture. And no, i dont give copies of my lectures out like fricking study guides for children.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:43 pm to
There will always be ways to cheat. And the students will find them quickly. Might as well focus on actually teaching instead of how to prevent people from cheating.

If you're a good teacher, students will want to learn.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83113 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:44 pm to
That's just it. If I need to come to class to learn, I will come to class.

I am the type who won't need to study as hard if I attend classes where the teacher actually teaches.

Unfortunately a lot of the gen-ed courses in college were wastes of time in the actual classroom. There were quite a few I just stopped showing up to after week 1 and still made an A. There were also a lot that I couldn't miss even one class without being lost -- regardless of the teacher's attendance rules.
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:45 pm to
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Talked to a professor at LSU about it and he said the average student coming in today has no idea how to write at the level of a high school freshman.


I'm calling bullshite on this one.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
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There will always be ways to cheat. And the students will find them quickly. Might as well focus on actually teaching instead of how to prevent people from cheating.


I dont worry about cheaters. I catch at least a few students every semester under the rules of plagiarism.

these kids are actually too dumb to cheat effectively.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 3/4/15 at 3:46 pm to
No my SO, the teacher, is in TFA (Teach for America)
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