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re: that hate for personal injury attorneys
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:02 am to Hou_Lawyer
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:02 am to Hou_Lawyer
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Troll. And if you aren’t - PI is right up there w family law. Bottom feeders.
At least there is a real market for the needs of people in the family law setting.
What the family law industry needs is a strong middle tier, which doesn't really exist in my experience. There is a top-level tier of really great lawyers who are expensive as shite. They may start out as reasonable, but once you show competency and get a reputation, you can print money and they become expensive.
Then there are a TON of terrible lawyers who do family law b/c they aren't capable of doing much else. They are cheaper and often not worth a fraction of that reduced cost. The problem is even middle class people have to often rely on this class of family law attorney b/c the top-level is truly expensive as hell.
I'm assuming you're talking about that lower tier when you referenced family law attorneys. Criminal has a similar stratification but a much more reasonable/strong middle tier.
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Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:08 am to boosiebadazz
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Sure. Here you go:
LINK
That was a fun read when I saw it a few months ago.
He's the only lawyer who ever set my client's deposition with his initial correspondence.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:10 am to NIH
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Lots of the heavy hitters have convinced themselves that they’re doing the Lord’s work - at 33-40%
One of the parts I hated most when I was doing lots of PI work. Hearing this all the time just being part of the tribe. The lies these people tell themselves to feel like they're worth their fees...and they do it enough to where they truly end up believing it.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:14 am to Sun God
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why exactly does one choose the PI route?
Lawyering is a strange field where your first job often ends up guiding your entire career. If you end up working in PI (or as insurance defense and then flip to try to maximize earnings), you kind of just do that litigation your entire career.
There are also general practitioners who realize the wealth that PI can bring who start advertising to try to get into it. This has become more difficult as the Barts, Gordons, etc. of the world have bigger marketing budgets and major marketing firms that corner the market in most areas. The barrier to entry for PI is insane unless you have an established name or 7-figures per month to advertise.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
That’s one of the reasons I left.
The rah rah we’re doing the Lord’s work stuff made me queasy
The rah rah we’re doing the Lord’s work stuff made me queasy
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:22 am to midcitycid
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i cant tell you how many rock-ribbed conservative types have come to me bitching and moaning about how they havent been treated fairly etc. by an insurance company. who do they turn to?
They hate us til they need us
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:24 am to Tiger Prawn
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Seeing accidents with sub-$1000 in property damage result in 5 figure bodily injury claim payouts is usually a good reason why people hate PI lawyers.
In college I was at a stop sign on a small street. Someone was trying to turn onto the street and didn’t have enough room, so I put it in reverse to back up and didn’t realize a car was stopped right behind me.
I hit the car behind me, going maybe 2-3 MPH. There was actually no damage at all to the other car. I had a minor scratch. Got out and the people were obviously fine. I called the police to come out and file a report because that’s what I was always taught to do, even though we easily could’ve just gone our separate ways.
Couple of months later, I get served a lawsuit for $250k alleging that the other driver hasn’t been able to work since the accident and won’t be able to work again. I didn’t have any money but they attached my parents to the suit because my parents owned the car I was driving.
It was terrifying and I’m sure many other innocent people have also been victims of massive lawsuits, that even if covered by insurance, cause a lot of unnecessary stress.
I get that every profession has bad actors, but if you brand yourself as a PI lawyer and advertise the way they do - you’re setting yourself up for a living off of frivolous bullshite lawsuits. If someone suffered a real injury, no reason they couldn’t go to a legitimate litigation attorney who handles various claims.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:24 am to midcitycid
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that hate for personal injury attorneys
Maybe it’s the one billboard per Interstate mile that wreaks of cash grabbing desperation on your part that people are getting tired of.
Out of Staters driving through Louisiana must think we’re the most incompetent drivers and are getting in accidents at every corner.
There’s no damn need for 10 attorney billboards in any 5 mile stretch of road. Anywhere!
Shut up Gordon and go buy another billboard, park bench, bus ad and car wrap.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:30 am to carhartt
Then you must love Alabama and Mississippi with Alexander Shunnarah and his billboards every mile
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:38 am to Tigerfan56
If Louisiana insurance fraud statutes on the books were actually enforced there would be an entire camp at Angola just for the plaintiff lawyers and doctors.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:41 am to DevilDagNS
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If Louisiana insurance fraud statutes on the books were actually enforced there would be an entire camp at Angola just for the plaintiff lawyers and doctors.
Nope, you have to take Mr. Plaintiff at his word. He says he hurts? You need to pay for every bit of treatment that he is willing to undergo and all the pain and suffering that goes with it.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:03 am to Tigerfan56
quote:What happened?
Couple of months later, I get served a lawsuit for $250k alleging that the other driver hasn’t been able to work since the accident and won’t be able to work again. I didn’t have any money but they attached my parents to the suit because my parents owned the car I was driving
Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:20 am to Jake88
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What happened?
The case dragged on for about a year. Insurance had their own lawyers handle everything. At the end of everything, they settled for like $2-3k (covered by insurance company) and my insurance rates went up.
So it really didn’t effect me too much in the end, but it was really scary to me at first. Maybe it was just because I was a kid, but if the same thing happened to me again I think I’d be stressed. Anytime someone says you owe them 6 figures, no matter how frivolous the claim, I think that ups your heart beat a little.
ETA: And honestly I was pissed that these scumbags got any money at all, no matter how small. It probably was all ate up by lawyer fees, but even then - the scumbag lawyers got money from it.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:38 am to Sun God
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As a non lawyer who understands little other than bird law lawyerings why exactly does one choose the PI route?
It’s the easy way for the retarded attorneys to make money without having a set of real world skills. They’re kind of like real estate agents, but not as sharp.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:03 am to Spasweezy
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They’re kind of like real estate agents, but not as sharp.
of all the things said in this thread, this stings the most Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:11 am to boosiebadazz
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of all the things said in this thread, this stings the most
I’ll half-heartedly apologize. I do know some extraordinarily competent attorneys and realtors. They just don’t seem to be in the majority as far as competence goes in either profession.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:27 am to Spasweezy
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I’ll half-heartedly apologize. I do know some extraordinarily competent attorneys and realtors. They just don’t seem to be in the majority as far as competence goes in either profession.
What profession does? The medical field is riddled with incompetence.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:35 am to midcitycid
As someone on the other side of the v., I recognize the need for PI plaintiff lawyers in cases of real injury and damage where you have an insurance company deliberately denying and delaying per industry-wide internal procedures. I get that.
The problem is there are too many menial and frivolous auto accident lawsuits field in Louisiana, and the lawyers who file them are rightly mocked. Not every unwitnessed parking lot fender-bender merits a civil lawsuit in a state district court. I've posted on here before that auto accidents in this state need to be cordoned off into some kind of separate tribunal system like workers comp, or be subject to some kind of threshold merit review like the med mal panel.
The problem is there are too many menial and frivolous auto accident lawsuits field in Louisiana, and the lawyers who file them are rightly mocked. Not every unwitnessed parking lot fender-bender merits a civil lawsuit in a state district court. I've posted on here before that auto accidents in this state need to be cordoned off into some kind of separate tribunal system like workers comp, or be subject to some kind of threshold merit review like the med mal panel.
Posted on 3/31/22 at 11:57 am to midcitycid
Plaintiff injury Attorneys are cancer to our state and overall society. You aren’t serving an overall good for the community any longer
Gordon etc do far more damage to this state than the government, and that’s saying a lot.
Gordon etc do far more damage to this state than the government, and that’s saying a lot.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/31/22 at 12:13 pm to midcitycid
Thanks for the high insurance premiums
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