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re: that hate for personal injury attorneys

Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30029 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:17 pm to
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I’ve never come across a PI attorney that didn’t exaggerate the claim.


Have you ever come across a defense attorney that didn't undervalue a claim? That has nothing to do with PI attorneys or even the area of practice you see the same thing from white shoes arguing on behalf of two multinationals.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37622 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:19 pm to
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measuring my worth as an attorney in tenths of an hour (never pass up a billing opportunity!); being a slave to reporting requirements; being a cog in a machine;

Ha, truth. Horrible.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:21 pm to
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that just shows we have work to do in overcoming the bias planted by the insurance/business industry
You can't be honest with yourself. It's the other guy. I've got news, most people form their opinions about trial lawyers from observing trial lawyers.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28233 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:26 pm to
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i for one got tired of measuring my worth as an attorney in tenths of an hour (never pass up a billing opportunity!); being a slave to reporting requirements; being a cog in a machine;


Totally worth it though when after 12 years of grinding out chiropractor depos and litigating bumper damage you score that sweet .000000000000000010000000002% partnership interest!
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6044 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:27 pm to
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You can't be honest with yourself. It's the other guy. I've got news, most people form their opinions about trial lawyers from observing trial lawyers.


Truth. How many people even know an insurance defense attorney? These sneaky insurance defense attorneys are somehow injecting anti-plaintiff attorney biases into the public discourse without anyone knowing it.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119925 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:30 pm to
I was in the game for a couple years. Money is great if you get the cases. You’re also a divorce or private school tuition payment from the partner screwing you out of a big lick. That and the big city firms subject their associates to every shiny new PI “boot camp” that comes along.
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
876 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:31 pm to
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otally worth it though when after 12 years of grinding out chiropractor depos and litigating bumper damage you score that sweet .000000000000000010000000002% partnership interest!


i just had a good laugh, thanks!
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28233 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:33 pm to
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You’re also a divorce or private school tuition


Dont forget buying fake titties and the drugs. My nut every month was rough.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56911 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:41 pm to
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but why the absolute hate?


Because most of them are very shitty at understanding the law and maybe 3% understand how to read a contract. They only win cases if they get the judge they donate money towards their campaigns.

It’s a very unethical profession, and they are the reason our insurance rates are so damn high, as others have stated.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 10:42 pm
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
876 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:42 pm to
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ost people form their opinions about trial lawyers from observing trial lawyers.


from observing trial lawyers commercials

fixed it for you and i get it---those are obnoxious.

i am on very good terms with pretty much every defense atty i deal with. we are different sides of the same coin.

i was not referring to the defense bar. LABI and the insurance industry and their lackeys in baton rouge gin up this hostility. How many tort reforms have we had? how many prior insurance commissioners have gone to prison for being too cozy with the industry have there been??

i can agree that we need to police ourselves better and crack down on the bs

but my friend you are entitled to your opinion. peace be with you
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37622 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:46 pm to
And also having partners stealing your hours via cutting yours to add to their “review and revise” time. I figured out what was going on so started saving copies of my drafts and the final filed version to show that the revisions were minimal in case I was asked. Then I realized no one was going to ask because they didn't care. Then I realized, why work for such a firm.
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
876 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:48 pm to
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And also having partners stealing your hours via cutting yours to add to their “review and revise” time.


Amen i say to you....

but but but they bill at a higher rate!! damn fine way to get fckd out of your billables. but if they client doesnt know who is it going to hurt? the 3rd party that reviews the bills wont know any better.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78074 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 11:53 pm to
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but but but they bill at a higher rate!! damn fine way to get fckd out of your billables. but if they client doesnt know who is it going to hurt? the 3rd party that reviews the bills wont know any better
You aren't making much of a case for any attorney. You must be from LABI. LABI has nothing to do with the opinions of trial attorneys for 90% of the public. Most have been in an accident where the other party was clearly not injured yet got a decent settlement. It's not just the ads either, it's the product.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 11:54 pm
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7894 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 12:08 am to
If any TV or radio personal injury ad mentions a specific dollar amount, then that amount should be broken down: “Geraldo got me $900,000, but $50,000 was for medical expenses, $250,000 was for lost pay because I couldn’t work for 5 years, etc”. The public needs to be educated that getting in a wreck isn’t winning a jackpot. Once all is said and done you’re probably in worse financial shape than you were before the accident.
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3910 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:15 am to
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i get it, the ads are annoying but why the absolute hate? we perform a service.


So you decided to be a PI attorney because you wanted to help people who couldn’t help themselves…not because it could be lucrative, right?
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2957 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:25 am to
Nice melt
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62655 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:15 am to
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Seeing accidents with sub-$1000 in property damage result in 5 figure bodily injury claim payouts is usually a good reason why people hate PI lawyers.


My daughter got in to an accident at the intersection of Airline Highway and Greenwell Springs Road. The only damage was a bit of paint transfer and a slightly bent running board on our vehicle. Our insurance got taken for $14K because of "soft tissue damage." This kind of thing is why people don't like personal injury attorneys.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119925 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:52 am to
Months of chiro treatments and an unnecessary MRI won’t pay for itself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466142 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:59 am to
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i get it, the ads are annoying but why the absolute hate?

As a person who used to do a LOT of PI work, I can give you the biggest reasons:

1. Huge and some would say, unethical, margins.

2. PI mills relying on the artificially high margins referenced in #1. Not only are they a blight to our interstate highway system, but there is a lot of chicanery and potential fraud.

Contingency cases should be more strictly regulated (or eliminated entirely) and PI cases should all be guided by the Lodestar Method to eliminate windfalls. This would solve most of the problems and create a much more natural marketplace.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15979 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 7:01 am to
Generally they drive up the cost of doing business

They also feed the entitlement mentality by putting employee against employer.

They want exhorbitant rewards oftentimes encouraging people to fake injuries
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