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re: That army beret that soldiers wear, with one side drooped down nearly covering the eye.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:44 am to tketaco
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:44 am to tketaco
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I recall a light starch was acceptable in garrison but in field or war zone was against regs
I'm pretty sure both in the BDU and ACU era starch was a full-on no-go by AR 670-1. I assume because starching causes irreparable damage and you can't trust troops to keep them separate. That said most everyone starched them in garrison. What I personally hated was press marks over the buttons.
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:46 am to Obtuse1
quote:It supposedly degrades the thermal camouflage or something like that.
I'm pretty sure both in the BDU and ACU era starch was a full-on no-go by AR 670-1. I assume because starching causes irreparable damage and you can't trust troops to keep them separate.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:52 am to tketaco
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The funny thing about starch is it is against Army regs to starch a combat uniform.
I recall a light starch was acceptable in garrison but in field or war zone was against regs.
That was the logic behind why the Army got rid of starched BDU's in garrison for good.
Honestly, I kind of get it: my boys were either deployed or training on average 70 - 100 hours per week (and gone for weeks at a time on exercises) for pretty much their entire time in the service. Not having to worry about some stupid arse shite like polished boots or starched BDUs is for the better. Those kids were gladiators, and I didn't mind giving them slack on that shite.
It's little shite like that that will give the kids some mental advantage. You have to allow them some creativity and frick ups and ingenuity and initiative and doing combat jacks in port a potties. I am gonna brag, but I think I had one of the best platoons in the whole goddamn theater in Iraq, and they smelled like a distillery after our 48 hour break after we landed from Kuwait on our way back. I was kinda proud of that even though our battalion CSM and Commander were rather less than pleased.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:58 am to northshorebamaman
Anyone remember Cocharan III boots? They looked like jump boots but the only parts that were leather was the heel, toe, and parts where the lace loops were at. Everything else was canvas. Basically if they made a jungle boot version of jump boots. Bought a pair when I was at Polk, kept the leather parts shiny as all hell. I go to Korea and the SGM, my NCOIC and was a salty arse SF guy took one look and said, those aren't authorized. Never knew.
frick those were awesome boots.
frick those were awesome boots.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:58 am to AbuTheMonkey
quote:The ACU's sounded great in theory. Too bad they were made like shite. There was also something to e said for a high garrison standard. Not sure when you served but we used to keep 'field uniforms' for field problems and deployments. The standards were relaxed outside of garrison. No one gave a shite then.
Not having to worry about some stupid arse shite like polished boots or starched BDUs is for the better. Those kids were gladiators, and I didn't mind giving them slack on that shite.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:59 am to AbuTheMonkey
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doing combat jacks in port a potties
Goddamit sir, you just got me hard.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:00 am to Pechon
quote:They were always unauthorized in my units. I usually wore Corcoran 2's at work and Corcoran 1's for inspection.
Anyone remember Cocharan III boots? They looked like jump boots but the only parts that were leather was the heel, toe, and parts where the lace loops were at. Everything else was canvas. Basically if they made a jungle boot version of jump boots. Bought a pair when I was at Polk, kept the leather parts shiny as all hell. I go to Korea and the SGM, my NCOIC and was a salty arse SF guy took one look and said, those aren't authorized. Never knew.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 1:06 am
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:06 am to northshorebamaman
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They were always unauthorized in my units. I usually wore Cocharan 2's at work and Cocharan 1's for inspection
Makes sense as the leather on Cocharan 1s would shine up real nice if you put effort on it. I also had a pair of Cocharan 2s as well as a pair of regular jungle boots.
It's funny how back in the BDU days we put in a lot of effort in our uniforms and after I got out I see how the ACUs didn't need to be pressed and starched.
Those lessons in looking professional and sharp helped a lot in the civilian world. Even dress shoes that I have now I still slap on some Kiwi. It may not have made sense then but the Army taught me to dress for the job I want, not for the job I have.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 1:15 am to Pechon
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Makes sense as the leather on Cocharan 1s would shine up real nice if you put effort on it.
Yeah, the 1's were sweet looking but they didn't have any grip.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:08 am to tketaco
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Ignorant as frick with landnav and can’t make Site adjustments
As if this didn’t always used to be a problem.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:10 am to cypressbrake3
Berets are annoying. I'll stick with the PC
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:23 am to cypressbrake3
Let me guess your beret resembles a chefs hat
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:24 am to Obtuse1
Correct
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:25 am to northshorebamaman
Yes!
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:29 am to cypressbrake3
Berets are fricking awesome when they're actually worn right. Otherwise you look ate the frick up like a soup sandwich.
That said, OP fricking sucks.
That said, OP fricking sucks.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:44 am to AbuTheMonkey
quote:You and McCarton are one of the few posters I would like to meet IRL. And GT23.
AbuTheMonkey
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:53 am to cypressbrake3
Ohio Players guy used to do that with his fro
Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner was his name, passed away in 2013.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:04 pm to gthog61
Can you wear an ascot?
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:16 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'm pretty sure both in the BDU and ACU era starch was a full-on no-go by AR 670-1. I assume because starching causes irreparable damage and you can't trust troops to keep them separate.
It supposedly degrades the thermal camouflage or something like that.
Yep. The BDU and ACU design lowered thermal signature on IR equipment. Starch messed that up so you could shine like the guys getting torched in the Spooky cannon videos
Posted on 9/8/19 at 3:36 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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You have to allow them some creativity and frick ups and ingenuity and initiative and doing combat jacks in port a potties
I was never in the military , i wouldnt have lasted 3 days... but what in the hell is a ‘combat jack in a porta potty’?
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