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re: Texas to approve $1.6 billion for teacher raises
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:03 pm to FightnBobLafollette
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:03 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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Wrong
Washington Post
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It is commonly thought that many of these private schools provide a better education than public schools — and data published recently by the National Association of Independent Schools and Gallup find that their graduates may have better long-term outcomes. But data can be misleading, and there is a legitimate question of how much sense it makes to compare private and public school performance when the populations of students are different.
wapo tries to ignore the data. But the facts are the facts. 
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:29 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Please you get to deal with a large contingent of shitty kids every single day
Then don't choose to be a teacher?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:52 pm to BBONDS25
it would be nice if you didn’t like.
Which post are you quoting wrong from. Lol
Which post are you quoting wrong from. Lol
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:57 pm to FightnBobLafollette
Did I misread? You agree private schools produce better students?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:10 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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Sounds like your wife is a crappy teacher. OR maybe you shouldn’t be using anecdotal evidence. Dumb.
You really think a lot of teachers are spending weeks of their summer vacation working?
90% of them do two or three training days each summer and the rest is spent at home with their kids or sitting by the pool (the single ones or ones with no kids and have to find something to do while their boyfriends are at work).
I guess it anecdotal but when I see it from the vast majority of the 40 or so Facebook friends that are teachers I tend to believe it’s reality
For the most part they deserve better pay but this notion that teachers are working 60 hour weeks and doing tons of work in the summer along with school breaks during the year is laughable. Problem about pay is the good ones get paid the same as the shite ones. Years experience is the sole barometer outside perhaps having a masters bump.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:55 pm to BBONDS25
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Did I misread? You agree private schools produce better students?
Show where I said wrong.
Still waiting.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:59 pm to tylercsbn9
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You really think a lot of teachers are spending weeks of their summer vacation working?
Are you arguing against facts?
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90% of them do two or three training days each summer and the rest is spent at home with their kids or sitting by the pool (the single ones or ones with no kids and have to find something to do while their boyfriends are at work).
Link? Why 90?
And every teacher I know generally has a second job of sorts. Be it coaching. Or doing something in the summer.
See, that is anecdotal. Does mine trump yours?
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guess it anecdotal but when I see it from the vast majority of the 40 or so Facebook friends that are teachers I tend to believe it’s reality
It is anecdotal. Enough said.
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the most part they deserve better pay but this notion that teachers are working 60 hour weeks and doing tons of work in the summer along with school breaks during the year is laughable. Problem about pay is the good ones get paid the same as the shite ones. Years experience is the sole barometer outside perhaps having a masters bump.
I don’t know about deserve.
But I know teachers. And I know they work at home. There is no way to grade papers, exams, etc during the work day.
And I know they spend money out of pocket.
I agree with you on how things are paid. But that is the same for all gov. Al gov contractors.
We pretty much agree. I’m not trying to be a dick, it’s natural. ;)
Cheers.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:01 pm to jimbeam
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in most states, the average annual private school tuition is actually less than the average amount spent per child in a U.S. public school.
Of course. Private schools pay teachers less than public schools and their “tuition” doesn’t include a comparable figure for all of the free and reduced meals that public schools provide. Nor do they have the administrative costs.
Public school spending per student =/= teacher pay
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:10 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
They keep pretending that all private schools take on developmentally disabled, emotional issues, special ed, etc.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:12 pm to TDcline
Greatest state in the nation! 
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:14 pm to S
quote:but we lack culture
Greatest state in the nation!
but do have jobs and education, usually, those folks are more cultured.
But cant compete with the cultures in a toilet call NOLA
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:30 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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Show where I said wrong. Still waiting.
I asked if I misread. A simple yes or no would suffice. Also...do you agree private schools produce better students. Yes or no?
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:36 pm to BBONDS25
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Also...do you agree private schools produce better students. Yes or no?
It depends on where you’re talking about.
In Louisiana I’d say yes
But in places like the burbs of Texas the difference is probably minimal. Private’s will produce better students mainly due to the simple fact that those kids parents give a shite about their kid’s education. You’ll have a far higher percentage of those type of parents in a private school versus some public school in BR or NOLA. But it’s probably negligible if you compare a private to a school like Cy Ranch or Bridgeland in Cypress, Woodlands or College Park in the Woodlands, or Seven Lakes/Cinco/Thompkins in Katy.
There are also some shady arse private schools as well.
I’m building a home and can literally see Bridgeland HS outside my second story window. I have zero problems paying the high property taxes because the schools are absolutely phenomenal. And my neighbors all in general truly care about their kids and their community. The neighborhood is absolutely amazing. Which is why I strongly support neighborhood schools versus the shite show of a place like Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:48 pm to tylercsbn9
Agreed.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:50 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
asked if I misread. A simple yes or no would suffice.
Also...do you agree private schools produce better students. Yes or no?
You don’t misread. You lied. Which is what you do.
Still waiting for you to show me where I said wrong.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:58 pm to Jax Teller
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Professions like teachers, policemen, firefighters, etc. are the lowest paid people. Those that teach and those that protect. I've always found that concept odd in the grand scheme of a society.
Supply and demand.
It’s also not a secret what occupations generally pay. Get a different job if you expect to make a higher salary
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:00 pm to tylercsbn9
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You really think a lot of teachers are spending weeks of their summer vacation working? ?
90% of them do two or three training days each summer and the rest is spent at home with their kids or sitting by the pool (the single ones or ones with no kids and have to find something to do while their boyfriends are at work).
I guess it anecdotal but when I see it from the vast majority of the 40 or so Facebook friends that are teachers I tend to believe it’s reality
For the most part they deserve better pay but this notion that teachers are working 60 hour weeks and doing tons of work in the summer along with school breaks during the year is laughable. Problem about pay is the good ones get paid the same as the shite ones. Years experience is the sole barometer outside perhaps having a masters bump.
I used to think the same thing until my wife became a teacher 15 years ago. She absolutely works her arse off all school year. So much so that there is no way in hell I'd do that job. It's nice to come home and be able to leave work at work. Work follows her home. As for the the first two weeks of this summer she is working to help her district devise teaching strategies for next year with numerous continued training days to follow. Also a common misconception is that teachers are paid for the summer. In actuality they are not. Most teachers just have their pay broken up so they get a paycheck during the summer. Those that don't do not get a pay check.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:11 pm to Jax Teller
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Professions like teachers, policemen, firefighters, etc. are the lowest paid people. Those that teach and those that protect. I've always found that concept odd in the grand scheme of a society.
Police and fire could make more because the job is dangerous, but ultimately it’s supply and demand.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:25 pm to JJ27
Almost every teacher I’ve known has about one month off. They are required to generally help break down their class rooms etc for two weeks in June and are expected back August 1. So they get basically 6 weeks off maybe. There’s no telling what other requirements the schools put on them.
Teachers have to stay late to help students or do school required events as well as grading papers, recording grades, lesson planning, calling up parents if need be to tell them why their kid is a frick tard.
A lot of y’all act like they walk in 2 mins before the bell rings and roll out right behind the students. In all my years of school I’ve never seen a teacher doing that on any occasion.
You want to pay them a shite wage, don’t whine when junior isn’t getting the proper instruction. If the job isn’t worth the wage what’s the point. Paying teachers a good wage makes them love their job and give a shite about your kids success. You’re a complete arse if you can’t see otherwise
Teachers have to stay late to help students or do school required events as well as grading papers, recording grades, lesson planning, calling up parents if need be to tell them why their kid is a frick tard.
A lot of y’all act like they walk in 2 mins before the bell rings and roll out right behind the students. In all my years of school I’ve never seen a teacher doing that on any occasion.
You want to pay them a shite wage, don’t whine when junior isn’t getting the proper instruction. If the job isn’t worth the wage what’s the point. Paying teachers a good wage makes them love their job and give a shite about your kids success. You’re a complete arse if you can’t see otherwise
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:30 pm to Geauxld Finger
Come on. My kids fourth grade teacher would fricking race the kids to the gate to leave. Never seen her have gate or bus duty or anything.
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