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re: Texas is leading the way in workers transitioning back from remote to in-office work

Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:52 am to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:52 am to
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I’m sure you could debate this, but don’t you think this would be the happy medium?


This would seem to be more expensive. Still need to pay for a decent amount of office space (although less than everyone in office) while employees work in sterile, shared workspaces (which means increased cleaning).

Sometimes splitting the baby is the worst option. I also think this would be less efficient (maybe not as bad if it was one week in office, one week at home, etc).

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 9:55 am to
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This would seem to be more expensive


If you have a small office maybe. If you are leasing 12 floors in a downtown high rise that is almost certainly already outfitted with a lot of the technology you need, absolutely not.

Comparing your 8 man shop in St Bernard to a 3,000+ person office is apples to oranges.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37043 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:25 am to
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If you have a small office maybe. If you are leasing 12 floors in a downtown high rise that is almost certainly already outfitted with a lot of the technology you need, absolutely not.


Oh I agree, I was comparing a 50/50 split vs all WFH.

If you keep all 12 floors that you had pre-COVID and only do 50/50, seems like a lot of wasted space. If you had 24 floors pre-COVID and condensed to 12, I think the finances work better, but still you have people basically hoteling, which may not be popular.

Also, except for meetings/planning which admittedly is easier in person... what's the point of having people in the office sometimes but not all the time? Either your job requires in-person interaction or it doesn't (again, except for meetings/planning).
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:31 am to
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Also, except for meetings/planning which admittedly is easier in person


Training new staff, collaborating, all very important things.

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still you have people basically hoteling, which may not be popular.


Big places have been doing this 5+ years already
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11083 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:42 am to
My employer pulled us back in to the office and they received my two weeks notice soon after. Some of these companies are going to go through lots of pain. We had 3 people out of a team of 15 all getting promotions, a raise and 100% remote work. I got hired by a shop in D.C. and work in Dallas.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110737 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:42 am to
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Texas is leading the way in workers transitioning back from remote to in-office work

I live in Texas but thankfully this pandemic has shown our entire company can be remote and not skip a beat, so we are now 100% work from home
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 10:53 am to
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A lot of people with the Boomer mentality of needing to see someone in front of a monitor from 9-5 will struggle with next-gen workplace.



This has actually forced our Boomer CIO's hand. Our applications group had one opening that they could never fill because no one was willing to take the job and be in an office. Then they just lost another developer because he was offered 100% WFH. So the CIO is currently working with the others in the executive team to figure out a permanent WFH policy for IT. He's realized he can't find or maintain people in IT and expect them to be 100% in the office. More than likely it will be a hybrid system like others have discussed here, with some jobs (Techs that have to visit in person) only getting to WFH one or two days, and jobs like mine or applications that can be 100% WFH if we want.

Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:11 am to
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I can't get anything accomplished working from home


This is a problem with the person not the “working from home” concept in general.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10910 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:14 am to
There are plenty of people who’ve had enough of working from home even if it’s easy from a tech and commuting standpoint.... separating work from home life is not easy for those who’ve really never done it.

I don’t remember the article but there is a loss of creativity and spontaneity by not being in the office.

And zoom calls are rotting everyone’s brain.
This post was edited on 5/4/21 at 11:15 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:15 am to
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There are plenty of people who’ve had enough of working from home even if it’s easy from a tech and commuting standpoint. Not separating work from home life is not healthy for those who’ve really never done it.

I don’t member the article but there is a loss of creativity and spontaneity by not being in the office.

And zoom calls are rotting everyone’s brain.


Those same people will be bitching a year from now when they are sitting in traffic 2+ hours a day and have to drive straight from the office to their kids baseball game.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33180 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:19 am to
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but if you can do your work remotely, we even go back into the office


Mrs 19 and her crew contract to do medical billing. Their combined collected amount increased by over 60% from 03/01/20 to 02/28/21...with all working from home.

Big boss wanted them back in the office 4/1.

They said, "frick you."
He said, "ok"

They don't have to report but 2x/month for meetings.

Now, she's ALWAYS home. That means a clean house and all my clothes washed, but

she's ALWAYS home.

Hot breakfast and supper on the stove at 4:30
but

she's, like, ALWAYS frickINNGGGGGG HOMMMMMMEEEEE
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80765 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:20 am to
Why? At least do a hybrid. frick going back into the office full time
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14492 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:50 am to
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Why? At least do a hybrid. frick going back into the office full time


I think we're one of the few state offices that have always had a telecommuting policy. Granted it was designed for people to be able to live in Lafayette or New Orleans and work 3/2 office/home. But now almost everyone in my group is going 3/2 once we're back to permanent schedules. Should be fine as long as we don't have another massive ransomware attack like in 2019.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37043 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:53 am to
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Big places have been doing this 5+ years already


Yup. They have. And a lot of people I know in big firms absolutely despise it =)
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:55 am to
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Yup. They have. And a lot of people I know in big firms absolutely despise it =)


If rather have my own desk, but I'll gladly give up to hoteling if that means I can go in when I want to.

If I was in the office every day and had to hotel, yes it would suck
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1849 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:13 pm to
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I mean, there is an entire economy in those downtowns that need people working in the offices.

I love WFH, but I accept that it is going to come to an end soon.

I don't mind working in the office, I just hate the commute. It sucks the soul dry.


At the expense of workers Safety (driving), Health (sicker when having to come into the office), Environment (more traffic).

Just another example that government, whatever the level, are not interested in the best interests of their constituents.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83534 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 2:16 pm to
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Just another example that government, whatever the level, are not interested in the best interests of their constituents.


what does this have to do with private companies asking their employees to come back to their offices?
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