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re: Texas has more top 100 public schools than any other state.

Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:46 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57429 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:46 am to
they are tied together brah, and you know it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:47 am to
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EBR spends $10,755.00 per student
Zachary $9,780.00 per student

Katy ISD $8,596.00 per student.
Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.

Starting teacher salary in Cy-Fair ISD is $53K with BS. EBR $44,500.00 with a BA degree,$48,400.00 with a PHD.
I had always figured that teacher pay was so low in the south (not including Texas and Florida) because the they spent much less, but when I looked up the spending and teacher salaries by state, there is not near as much variation in the spending as there is in the salaries.

And even though the research shows that in general, students/families in the schools explain much more of the variation in school performance than the teachers themselves, but it's hard not to see such low salaries and think that this would have a pervasive impact on the quality of teachers a state can attract and retain.

So while raising the salaries of Louisiana teachers, isn't going to change the students, but it might at least attract and/or retain a few more teachers who could make some difference.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:48 am to
They have an ISD right? Those do wonders in communities that care.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:00 am to
quote:

quote:
Good teachers don’t make good schools, good students do


I think it's combination both and you can throw in parent involvement while we are at it.


I'm going with:
1/3 genetics
1/3 parenting/home life
1/3 teacher/school combo
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:05 am to
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Yes, but it also depends on where you look. North Texas suburbs have a lot of incredible schools. But then Texas is only 37th in the nation in education according to US News. 33rd for Pre K to 12.

The good schools are really good, but there’s obviously a lot of horrendous ones to bring down the avaerage.


Because Texas doesn't have the same demographics as states in places like the east coast.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:07 am to
The same resources? You’ve got to be kidding me.. they have 27 million people. We have 4.5. Stop comparing us to Texas because we will NEVER be anything close to them. We’re in the Mississippi/Alabama/Arkansas boat.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:43 am to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:48 am to
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Louisiana should let itsrlf be absorbed by Texas


Texas: Pass.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:51 am to
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The states have similar natural resources.


No they don't. Texas is well ahead of LA with the Permian Basin and Eagle Ford. LA has squandered what it had and there's not much on the horizon as far as new fields go.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18498 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:04 am to
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yeah but Louisiana has good restaurants
I think the home cooks are better than the restaurants.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15502 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:31 am to
Texas also has Texans and is Texas, so it has some problems to work out.
This post was edited on 6/14/18 at 11:40 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:33 am to
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Louisiana has the same resources as Texas


Are you serious??

Only thing Louisiana has in common with Texas is the Sabine River.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22774 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:38 am to
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Texas also has Texans


And a shite ton of the smartest Louisianans too.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15502 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:41 am to
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And a shite ton of the smartest Louisianans too.


They became Texans, so that's questionable.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9934 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:42 am to
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One protected it’s future (oil money invested in universities)


Texas didn't really intentionally do this. If I remember correctly the legislature wanted valuable land in east Texas which they took from the university system. In exchange, they gave them millions of (at the time) worthless acres out in West Texas. This was put in the state Constitution back in the late 1800's. Some 50 years later oil was discovered on the land and the university system ended up with one huge arse endowment fund.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Louisiana has the same resources as Texas.


Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19126 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:48 am to
Well...only California has more public schools than Texas...

Public Schools Table
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20483 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:48 am to
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Yes, but it also depends on where you look. North Texas suburbs have a lot of incredible schools. But then Texas is only 37th in the nation in education according to US News. 33rd for Pre K to 12.

The good schools are really good, but there’s obviously a lot of horrendous ones to bring down the avaerage.


yep. the top is great, but the rest fall behind. beto gonna fix that.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25473 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:49 am to
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Louisiana should let itsrlf be absorbed by Texas, taxed like Texas and be run by Texans. Schools, roads and infrastructure 10x better in every way.


and what are we going to do about the fact that Texas has 11% blacks, and LA has 32%?

You can't just slap a new pretty school off of Plank Rd and expect it to be better than before. That's not how it works. You can't make it better by putting better teachers in them either. When schools are good, doesn't matter where they are in this country, they are b/c of the parents.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19254 posts
Posted on 6/14/18 at 11:52 am to
And zero casinos
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