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re: Texas bartender charged for serving gunman who left bar, killed 8 people

Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:46 am to
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11909 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 7:46 am to
My God, what kind of fricked up individual goes to their exes house and kills 8 people, including his ex-wife, his best man, and another groomsman while they are watching a damn football game.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91563 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:06 am to
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o bartenders are supposed to not serve regulars and also be able to diagnose “insanity” now? What a ridiculous law.


You are supposed to cut people off and not serve them drunk. You can get in just as much trouble if that person kills someone in a car wreck.

If the person comes into your bar already intoxicated, you are supposed to refuse them.

You learn this while getting your permit to serve alcohol.

This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 8:08 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21399 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:17 am to
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Glass knew Spencer Hight and had earlier texted another bartender as Hight sat at the bar, investigators say. "Spencer has a big knife on the bar and is spinning it and just asked for his tab and said I have to go do some dirty work ... Psychoooooooo," according to the text, which was included in a report last year by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission. At one point, Hight also displayed a handgun and a bar worker escorted him to his car to place the weapons inside before he could return to the bar, police search warrants revealed. Glass' attorney, Scott Palmer, said Tuesday that her arrest "is not in the interest of justice" and criticized Plano police for going after a person who tried to stop violence from occurring. He said Glass tried to persuade Hight not to drive that night and expressed concerns about his behaviour to a supervisor. After Hight left the bar, Glass and another employee drove to Meredith Hight's nearby home out of concern that her estranged husband was headed there, Palmer said. When she spotted Spencer Hight's car outside of the home, Glass called 911. The call was made before the shooting began, he said.

If this is what the case is based on, i say we posthumously charge Chris kyle.
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3618 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:18 am to
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It’s a fricking misdemeanor that she’ll have to pay some court costs and attorney fees. Big whoop


Which will be a ton of money for a bartender to come up with. It's not the most lucrative job in the world and most bartenders aren't the best at managing money.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11569 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:46 am to
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can’t you read?

She’s a bartender. She serves drinks. That has no connection with someone making their own decision to get too drunk or kill somebody.

So again I ask, what did she do (i.e. as it relates to somebody else making their own decision to do something unrelated to going to a bar)?

Can’t you comprehend?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61604 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:25 am to
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Did y’all even read the story? The dude was talking about doing some “dirty work” with a knife, which the bartender knew about, he brandished a fricking handgun and they STILL kept serving him after the fact. If it was some random who didn’t say a word at the bar I would agree, but the dude obviously made enough of a commotion that the workers felt the need to go check up on the family after he left. So why did they keep serving him if they knew he was unstable?


Did you read the article? She told her boss she was worried about the guys, tried to stop him from driving, and is the one who called the cops warning them that he might hurt his estranged wife.

The family tried to sue her and the bar but it was dismissed.

quote:

Glass' attorney, Scott Palmer, said Tuesday that her arrest "is not in the interest of justice" and criticized Plano police for going after a person who tried to stop violence from occurring. He said Glass tried to persuade Hight not to drive that night and expressed concerns about his behaviour to a supervisor.

After Hight left the bar, Glass and another employee drove to Meredith Hight's nearby home out of concern that her estranged husband was headed there, Palmer said. When she spotted Spencer Hight's car outside of the home, Glass called 911. The call was made before the shooting began, he said.

Detectives early on had commended Glass for her actions, he said.

A lawsuit filed by the families of the victims against the bar and Glass has been dismissed.


Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:29 am to
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It appears the law merely states “intoxicated” which could include most people in any bar


And if this was a case of the guy just getting in an Uber and leaving without brandishing weapons, you wouldn't have heard about it.

Within the context of this case, if you actually read up on it, she was extremely negligent in her duties to be a responsible server of alcohol. She was charged AKA cited and fined accordingly.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:31 am to
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Within the context of this case, if you actually read up on it, she was extremely negligent in her duties to be a responsible server of alcohol. She was charged AKA cited and fined accordingly.

Post above yours said it’s been dismissed.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:32 am to
The lawsuit from the family did.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:35 am to
So she’s still on the hook.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:36 am to
Yes for a misdemeanor. I would be surprised if she saw jail time.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:39 am to
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Yes for a misdemeanor. I would be surprised if she saw jail time.
By the letter of the law, I’m surpris d we don’t see more of this- ESPECIALLY how people today look for a scapegoat even when it’s not within the law.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:44 am to
Then why not charge the maker of the gun, the maker of the vehicle he drove to get there, etc.

Is there some type of law that says a bartender is supposed to stop serving customers after so many drinks or something?

This doesn't sound like justice at all.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35515 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Just ignore it?


No. I get it. But i don't think it should be a crime in the first place. Just a licensing issue.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10967 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:09 pm to
I am wondering if these kind of charges usually take a year and a half to charge a person. They knew most if not all of this at the time of murders in fall of 2017.

Did they do this to appease families after lawsuit dismissed? Seems unlikely as not sure how a charge like this helps unless it somehow gives grounds to refill lawsuit (not sure how or why lawsuit was dismissed). Unless they were looking for something else to charge this seems like a long time to wait to charge for something they have known for awhile.
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