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re: TESLA unveils semi truck (500 mile max range, 0-60 in 5 secs, 400 miles in 30 mins charge)

Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:58 am to
Posted by City
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:58 am to
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And before you retort in desperation to seem legit, just know my exwife was head of sales and marketing for a large trucking company...Im no expert, but I know differently than you think


You sound like a tremendous cunt.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8311 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:05 am to
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I didn't read the link, but how much does it cost to fully charge a truck like this? How much are companies going to charge for them to charge at their stations? I could see it not being an issue to someone like Walmart that has locations all over the country so they can just "fuel up" at their stores, but is the cost going to be that much different?


7 cents/kwhr
Posted by Orange_and_Blur
Gainesville
Member since Nov 2017
644 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:05 am to
Another exemplar of Elon Musk stealing our tax dollars, yet the idiots out there fawn all over him.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:07 am to
There will be a time when transportation will be TaaS model. You ping one like Uber and it comes to your house and picks you up. Only difference is it will be self driving.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28061 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:11 am to


I laugh every day at the people stuck at the tesla recharging station in a strip mall. Everyone else driving to work, while ur stuck sitting in the car waiting for the charge.

Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:21 am to
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7 cents/kwhr


That doesn't really tell me much.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:24 am to
The market will determine if these trucks flourish or not. That's how we roll in a capitalist economy. Let's see what happens. Let's see if they have a better mouse trap. If they don't they won't go far. If they do that's good for everybody.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22168 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:33 am to
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That doesn't really tell me much.


Why?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69102 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:38 am to
Right now, it costs on average 12.9¢ a kwh to charge which on a model S with the 100kw battery comes to be $9.63.
I don't get the math behind that, but that's what I found online.
If you are buying gas, the price would come out to be the equivalent of getting 70mpg with 275 mile range for $9.63.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:40 am to
Most businesses have charging stations for free. So you have to factor that in.
Posted by The Great McGinty
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:43 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:48 am to
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I laugh every day at the people stuck at the tesla recharging station in a strip mall. Everyone else driving to work, while ur stuck sitting in the car waiting for the charge.



they are in the most random places sometimes as well. Was having lunch at a Mexican restaurant in Columbus, TX and they had 4 of them right across the street. Population of Columbus is small AF
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:53 am to
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with a $5,000 deposit per truck, which is not expected to hit the market until 2019.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:57 am to
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Gonna have to get the range to at least 600 miles, the legal driving limit per day.



Been around trucking my entire life and have never heard of a legal limit on miles. It’s hours on duty chief.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:00 am to
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. If you think a driver is going to pull over and spend a half hour to charge up, while on the clock, keeping him from maximizing his daily travel, you're crazy.



Except for the mandatory DOT break which will cover the 30 minute issue quite nicely. Although I think the break is only 15 minutes.

E-logs are already a thing for fleets over 25 or 50 trucks.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45772 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:01 am to
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Until it rear ends someone with a radar jammer.
You don't understand lasers,sensors and AI.
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
13361 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:08 am to
Is this piddling 500 mile range with accessories running like a/c, heat, fridge, misc electronics...running, too?

I'm all for electric cars but they've gotta do something about the range.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 10:12 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110879 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:08 am to
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Another exemplar of Elon Musk stealing our tax dollars,
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:10 am to
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If you think a driver is going to pull over and spend a half hour to charge up, while on the clock, keeping him from maximizing his daily travel, you're crazy.

If you think the end game is to have a driver in that truck, YOU'RE crazy.

At 60 mph and an on-duty limit of 11 hour a day, a driver can legally move a load of cargo 660 miles a day.

If Tesla's truck can go 400 miles without a charge, at 60 mph it runs for about 6.5 hours before it needs a half hour charge, so that's 7 hours to go 400 miles. But it doesn't have a daily limit, so it keeps going. The driverless truck can move 24 hours a day and it can move the same load about 1350 miles in those 24 hours, so twice what the human driver can do. Even if the numbers are wildly optimistic and it can only move loads 25% farther, that's still a huge difference. The cherry on top is that there's no driver to pay.

Don't believe the Diesel Driving Academy commercial. The day is quickly approaching where "if you can drive a truck, you've got a job my friend" is a lie.

Ask Detroit, and more importantly the UAW, what happens when you fail to recognize how technology is going to streamline and revolutionize your industry and, more importantly, HOW SOON. Robotic long-haul trucks are coming. I'd put my money on I-10 being the first route, too. It connects all three coasts, hits many ports, and generally has favorable weather for the trucks to operate in during the early days as the technology begins to mature. Tesla builds an autonomous charging station every 300 miles or so and the trucks just pull off the interstate, onto the charging stand, and 30 minutes later, they're on their way again.

Even better, the charging stations would probably also serve as the transfer stations between the short-haul and the cross-country routes, so no more infrastructure other than the charging stations along major highways would be needed. When the autonomous truck would get to the closest charging station to where its load is heading, it could just drop the trailer off for handoff to the local trucker, charge itself, and move on to the next load.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110879 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:11 am to
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I laugh every day at the people stuck at the tesla recharging station in a strip mall. Everyone else driving to work, while ur stuck sitting in the car waiting for the charge
Tesla drivers do the same every time a Tesla passes a gas station.

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Everyone else driving to work
You think Teslas can't drive to work without needing a charge? That's adorable.
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