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re: Tesla says fatal crash on Hwy 101 in Mountain View, CA involved Autopilot
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:41 am to PrivatePublic
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:41 am to PrivatePublic
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I will never feel comfortable in an automated car on imperfect roads with imperfect drivers. Programmers simply cannot capture every single abnormality the average driver is likely to face on roads that are subject to shoddy upkeep and people subject to stupidity.
I know this because I am a programmer.
I have never understood how automated cars are supposed to work with each other. There are all sorts of instances where 2 drivers think they have the right of way to do something where if both did it they would crash. Who overrides who?
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Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:46 am to Paul Allen
Shrewd, yet practical decision, Paul. I’ve also noticed Penn guys tend to struggle to keep up on the tennis court and, well, no one has time for that!
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:49 am to mtntiger
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Second, Tesla should update the control program to have the car come to a stop and turn on flashers if the driver ignores the warning more than five seconds.
It's longer than 5 seconds, but it does do this.
Actually disables the car and requires a restart.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 10:59 am to slackster
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Elon Musk is spread too thin. He's sending a Tesla into orbit while his Model 3 is woefully behind schedule. He's got too many irons in the fire.
Don't forget the solar roofs, the boring company, and now he's about to send satellites into space for a new broadband service he's starting.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:19 pm to stout
and they want to automate 18 wheelers? Yeah Right 
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:55 pm to Street Hawk
Just test drove one last week. The autopilot is a feature that does not translate to a a self driving car. The two are different and there is a line. You have to pay attention even when it’s on.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:07 pm to fightin tigers
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It's longer than 5 seconds, but it does do this.
It's too long then. In 10 seconds at 60 MPH, you've covered nearly 3 football fields. If danger is spotted at 500 feet, you're screwed.
Obviously, it didn't work in the OP crash.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:09 pm to Street Hawk
CAD hasn't been in here to crow?
We should send the Sheriff over to CAD's house for a welfare check.
We should send the Sheriff over to CAD's house for a welfare check.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:13 pm to drexyl
Derp
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:14 pm to mtntiger
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It's too long then. In 10 seconds at 60 MPH, you've covered nearly 3 football fields. If danger is spotted at 500 feet, you're screwed.
A few eggs will have to be cracked to make this work.
Get over your snowflake liberal "no one can get hurt mentality
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:16 pm to Street Hawk
Tesla Toasty Euro Style Luxury Auto
Damn that thing burned like a stick of kindling.
Damn that thing burned like a stick of kindling.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:23 pm to Street Hawk
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"The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken.
If I personally experienced "7 out of 10" incidents where the Autopilot tried to steer me into that barrier...you know, I'd like to to think I'd learn something and take the fricking wheel when I was approaching it.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:25 pm to drexyl
quote:THIS
i can't believe people are willing to be the beta test on a robot car.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:32 pm to brgfather129
As long as the driver is the only casualty im fine with people dying by robot.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 1:36 pm to WaltTeevens
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Apparently the driver set the autopilot to "Asian mode" shortly before impact
Well then it would’ve been going much slower
Posted on 3/31/18 at 2:57 pm to crazycubes
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If my wife was one of those "eggs" that broke I'd clearly let Elon musk know that his omelette just cost him right around $50 million
Not Elon the taxpayers.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 3:00 pm to crazycubes
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If my wife was one of those "eggs" that broke I'd clearly let Elon musk know that his omelette just cost him right around $50 million
Well, your wife would be in the wrong just like this driver.
Autopilot doesn't absolve the driver of liability. It should be constantly monitored, like autopilot on a plane.
This post was edited on 3/31/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 3/31/18 at 5:37 pm to Street Hawk
So the guy said 7/10 times he was approaching that same area, the car tried to run into the barrier, yet he still left it in autopilot at that area?
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:14 pm to PrivatePublic
quote:And that is the problem with driving. Not that you specifically, are a bad driver, but the other drivers on the road are the ones you have to deal and worry about.
Programmers simply cannot capture every single abnormality the average driver is likely to face on roads that are subject to shoddy upkeep and people subject to stupidity.
I know this because I am a programmer.
Posted on 3/31/18 at 7:47 pm to Street Hawk
I’m wiling to bet the rate of accidents per mile driven by an autonomous car is miniscule compared to one without.
You’ll never be able to engineer out every contingency. But it’s still a hell of a lot better than an idiot on their phone.
You’ll never be able to engineer out every contingency. But it’s still a hell of a lot better than an idiot on their phone.
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