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re: Tell me why Imperial is better than the Metric system

Posted on 10/23/24 at 9:46 am to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34967 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 9:46 am to
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The metric system is just so much more intuitive.


True, but if you're bad at math you're still gonna frick up by misplacing a decimal.

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And once you start using it, you never wanna go back.


I can switch between the 2 throughout the day and not have an issue. I'm so wrapped up in Imperial that I can do a lot of calculations involving feet and inches in my head rather quickly.

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Currently on a global project that is using the metric system, and I can’t believe we never adopted it here.


You ever wonder why socket wrenches have recievers in 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" throughout the world?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34967 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 9:48 am to
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The engineers that did it used the metric system when putting us there though


Correct. The Nazis that we had working on weapons and rockets were familiar with metric.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4571 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:15 am to
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Might be the only positive, but Imperial is superior for recipes.

Converting imperial ingredient amounts to metric amounts is an impossible task. It might also explain why British food sucks.


Going to disagree with you on recipes. I'd much rather use metric measurements for cooking, and especially baking, than imperial measurements. I recognize using metric measurements can complicate recipes, but that is mainly resolved by having a scale be a standard tool in the kitchen. Measuring solids with things like C, 0.5C, 0.33C, and 0.25C lends itself to greater opportunities for error than measurement by weight. Now, if recipes used 17.85oz of flour instead of 4 1/4C flour it would make more sense but 500g flour makes even more sense than either 17.85oz or 17.637oz.
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3692 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:20 am to
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Think about all the engineering documents, road signs, mile markers that would need to be updated if we swapped over.


Have you ever experienced a road grader operator get off the equipment look at a stake and start scratching his head because he doesn't understand Cut 0.03m?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23818 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:32 am to
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I have a 9mm in my car.



Imperial wins again

Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51348 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:33 am to
In my experience, metric is better for military purposes.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:33 am to
Let's go Sexagesimal!
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:36 am to
9mm is the metric version of 38 special.

.38 is still a better round!
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14158 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:37 am to
Pretty much the only reason I can think of is it's because what we grew up with using. Nobody wants to switch from something they're familiar with. I love metric units. Usually use them at work instead of imperial.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3662 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:38 am to
Contrary to popular belief we use both. Scientific extrapolations needed? Use metric. Traditional uses for weights and distance, use the Imperial.
It’s not hard.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
3193 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:41 am to
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Going to disagree with you on recipes. I'd much rather use metric measurements for cooking, and especially baking, than imperial measurements. I recognize using metric measurements can complicate recipes, but that is mainly resolved by having a scale be a standard tool in the kitchen. Measuring solids with things like C, 0.5C, 0.33C, and 0.25C lends itself to greater opportunities for error than measurement by weight. Now, if recipes used 17.85oz of flour instead of 4 1/4C flour it would make more sense but 500g flour makes even more sense than either 17.85oz or 17.637oz.


100% agree. For consistency and reproducability, measurement in grams and mL superior for baking, pasta making, gelato/ice cream and rouxs. I have known standards I use in my kitchen for what the weight in grams is per cup of the brands of dry ingredients that I use and convert all my recipes to metric weights and make the tweaks in grams. I typically use mL for liquid ingredients.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:45 am to
And it's not even used in math, Kelvin is.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40650 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:45 am to
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The metric system is just so much more intuitive. And once you start using it, you never wanna go back. 


I've had to use metric on civil engineering type projects and I hated it. I had to convert metric measurements to imperial so I could visualize the size to confirm it made sense. I can visualize .167 ft but not 2cm
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
199 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:57 am to
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The engineers that did it used the metric system when putting us there though


No, actually they didn't. I've held prints for flight hardware of that era in my hands. It was in inches.
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
199 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:00 am to
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Correct. The Nazis that we had working on weapons and rockets were familiar with metric.


Wrong. See above.

FTR, there were fewer than 100 ex-German scientists & engineers in the space program of the 1960's. There were more than 400,000 US engineers, scientists, and technicians.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:03 am to
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French being one of the most dominant languages in the future.


I was told we would all be Japanese women by now.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8506 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:04 am to
2 cm, a little less than an inch

The two system's are every where and not going to go away

There is a critical issue with tubing parts interchangeability . In the 1/4 inch size, the difference between metric and imperial is too small to be easily recognized. Enough of a mismatch however to slip off in high pressure applications.

For a new large project, nat gas plant, the day to pick units of measure is the very first day of the project. By requiring std units for drawings, vendors etc, a lifetime of misery is avoided by the maintenance folks
Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
199 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:12 am to
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I've had to use metric on civil engineering type projects and I hated it. I had to convert metric measurements to imperial so I could visualize the size to confirm it made sense. I can visualize .167 ft but not 2cm


I used to love torturing young mechanical engineers who were addicted to metric over this. I would take their hand and twist while telling them to resist me.

Me: That was about 1 ft-lbf, right? Felt like it, didn't it?
Young Punk: Uh, yeah. So?
Me: Ok, now twist my hand with about 1 N-m of force.
Young Punk: Uhhhhhhh

Metric is easy on paper, hard to visualize in a hands-on situation. This makes it easy for engineers with little real-world experience to completely miss a torque or force that is either too high or too low.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79119 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:14 am to
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NASA used metric for the moon landings
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16782 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:23 am to
We’ve been screwed since we got away from the cubit.
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