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Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:23 pm to Bootycall
I thought it was just a standard knowledge baseline that all students are required to learn.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:23 pm to Rayburn8
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The best way to describe it is that it lowers the ceiling but races the floor. It holds back smarter kids but helps kids that are not that smart.
Funny, because many of the complaints about common core stem from the fact that it makes the not-smart kids look even less smart. The folks who want to unite on Facebook against this new scary thing they don't understand ought to at least get their copypasta consistent.
And is it just the math part of common core that terrifies people?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:24 pm to Bootycall
Makes sense to me. Just a visual representation of how i do math in my head. Dumb folks like to write shite down i guess
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:24 pm to WG_Dawg
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I know that 9x8 is 72 because when I was a little kid in math class I memorized it with the rest of the multiplication tables.
Are you sure that you perfectly remember all your multiplication tables years after the fact? Or do you also know that 9x8=72 because 9x10=90 - 9x2=18 =90-18 =72? Or 8x10=80 - 8=72?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:27 pm to AUCE05
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I thought it was just a standard knowledge baseline that all students are required to learn.
It is, and there are children meeting the standards.
States like Mississippi think it's making our children dumber when in reality it only exposes how poorly they have been taught.
Common Core was designed by some of the finest educators in the country at the request of governors from around the country. It was designed to help poorer states to catch up.
Fwiw, the states that have gotten rid of Common Core have failed miserably. South Carolina is a very tragic example.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:29 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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copypasta
wut
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:30 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Are you sure that you perfectly remember all your multiplication tables years after the fact?
yep, strictly memorization.
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do you also know that 9x8=72 because 9x10=90 - 9x2=18 =90-18 =72? Or 8x10=80 - 8=72?
If someone wants me to figure out 9x8, I can't see one fathomable reason why I'd need to do all that just to arrive at the same answer.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:30 pm to KindaRaw
Didn't see this before. I took calculus in high school, have an Ms in finance and the highest I've tutored in pre-cal.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:34 pm to WG_Dawg
Read a couple pages back to understand the logic behind teaching that and then read my first comment on the first page and laugh at yourself for fulfilling my observations.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:41 pm to Wasp
The poor teachers of EBR will have to get recertificated to teach real math and English.... Just send your kids to private school or move to Denham/Prairieville.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:42 pm to Wasp
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Read a couple pages back
nah
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laugh at yourself for fulfilling my observations.
I dont' care if I've fulfilled your observations. I can give an answer to a multiplcation problem much quicker simply bc it's memorized than having to break down each place, finding 2 numbers, and subtracting to get the same answer.
CC sucks!!
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:42 pm to WG_Dawg
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know that 9x8 is 72 because when I was a little kid in math class I memorized it with the rest of the multiplication tables. Why does it matter if I can't take 9 steps via some convoluted and confusing method to show you exactly how I got there?
You probably would have memorized it anyway by seeing it over and over again over the years.
So why waste time memorizing it
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:43 pm to WG_Dawg
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dont' care if I've fulfilled your observations. I can give an answer to a multiplcation problem much quicker simply bc it's memorized than having to break down each place, finding 2 numbers, and subtracting to get the same answer.
Well your way isn't math.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:45 pm to TigerBait1127
Speed of strictly memorizing > speed of breaking problem into smaller components in order to solve it. Now doing so with polynomials is obviously different, but with whole numbers and even fractions it's much easier to kind of know that 2 + 2 = 4 or 1/2 + 1/2 = 1 instead of doing 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + /4 = 1.
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:47 pm to WG_Dawg
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If someone wants me to figure out 9x8, I can't see one fathomable reason why I'd need to do all that just to arrive at the same answer.
Without using a calculator or writing it down, what is 79x13?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:48 pm to TigerBait1127
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Well your way isn't math.
does that matter?
If someone asks me to solve 9x8 and I say 72 are they gonna say "whoa whoa there, hold up...did you use MATH for that, or just some mamby pamby memorization?"
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:51 pm to WG_Dawg
The ignorance around this subject is astounding. Almost every credible expert in the field of math says this is how kids should be taught.
It is how the kids from around the world who are killing our kids in math and science are being taught.
It is how you as an adult instinctively do math in your head.
Oh, btw...the "Old way" is still taught, then these alternative methods are taught in addition to the old way. They are more effective, easier to perform and give kids a deeper understanding of the relationships between numbers. These concepts will greatly help them in developing the critical thinking necessary to perform higher math functions in HS and College.
Despite what the tin foil hatters have told you, the CC STATE Standards were developed by states, mostly lead by Republican Governors and Legislators BEFORE Obama was elected president, and there is NO Federal Curriculum mandated by the Fed Gov related to Common Core.
If you don't think 31 states, bringing to bear all of their resources can come up with a better set of standards than Louisiana (ranked in the bottom few states for education for all eternity) acting on its own, you probably should put down your crack pipe.
When 90+ percent of doctors tell me a particular treatment is best for me, I typically go with that.
When I need my taxes done, I typically go to a CPA
Suddenly, we should all go to a bunch of housewives and politicians with no Ed background to tell us how we should educate our kids... Because Obama?
It is how the kids from around the world who are killing our kids in math and science are being taught.
It is how you as an adult instinctively do math in your head.
Oh, btw...the "Old way" is still taught, then these alternative methods are taught in addition to the old way. They are more effective, easier to perform and give kids a deeper understanding of the relationships between numbers. These concepts will greatly help them in developing the critical thinking necessary to perform higher math functions in HS and College.
Despite what the tin foil hatters have told you, the CC STATE Standards were developed by states, mostly lead by Republican Governors and Legislators BEFORE Obama was elected president, and there is NO Federal Curriculum mandated by the Fed Gov related to Common Core.
If you don't think 31 states, bringing to bear all of their resources can come up with a better set of standards than Louisiana (ranked in the bottom few states for education for all eternity) acting on its own, you probably should put down your crack pipe.
When 90+ percent of doctors tell me a particular treatment is best for me, I typically go with that.
When I need my taxes done, I typically go to a CPA
Suddenly, we should all go to a bunch of housewives and politicians with no Ed background to tell us how we should educate our kids... Because Obama?
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:52 pm to brgfather129
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what is 79x13?
1027. Not really difficult to do this in your head. I solve it no different than this problem is solved below in my head.
Doesn't take a genius to figure this out without a calculator or pencil/paper.
ETA: And yeah, I get your point. You aren't going to memorize how to multiply 79 x 13 unless you are crazy. But doing it the way in the picture I posted, at least to me, makes more sense than breaking down two numbers into, let's say, 4 separate, smaller numbers.
ETA pt 2: Just realized that it should say 228 instead of 288. Bad example ik.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/18/15 at 12:53 pm to brgfather129
This guy has got it
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