re: Tell me what you know about common core?

Mostly correct. In my opinion implementing fell on the system administrators, who failed many of their teachers in choosing the right material to reach common core standards. Combine that with too much control over teaching methods at the system level or principal level, and students with unsupportive parents that would rather complain about something they know little about because being against common core is "en vogue".

You're right, the system admins have implemented it wrong. The system in its current state requires tons of paperwork and extraneous testing. My teacher friend that I get all this stuff from has to give a pre-test (to measure student knowledge of a subect before learning it), practice tests, quizzes, and a test for every topic covered. Students take too long to take any test, so this wastes a lot of class time. And finally they have to take multiple tests from the state as well on each subject. The kids get tired of testing really fast and just quit trying

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That's actually how I do math in my head.

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It makes sense like that right? Its a tangible way of characterizing a (somewhat) abstract concept. That's how I understand it too. But no one taught you or me that because that's not how math was taught until common core. I take it for granted that I understood math that way, but a lot of kids don't. Common core is supposed to teach them that. But even with good teachers, they don't seem to be getting it. There's a genetic component to it I think, and that makes a barrier to a lot of kids learning math this way. They may never be able to understand it the way we do

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What happened to learning addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division through straight memorization? It isn't hard to know that 8 x 9 is 72 because that's just something easy to memorize... But common core idiots will make it so that 8 x 9 = 4 x 2 x 3 x 3. I love simple math. Over complicating something so simple is just, well, counterproductive.

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Great point. The purpose isn't so kids can figure out what 8 x 9 is. You're right, that can easily be done with memory. Can you recall from memory what 18 x 24 is though? That's the reasoning behind it. So that kids understand what they are actually doing instead of memorizing facts for the purpose of it.

I have 2 elementary school kids and I have no problem with the math. In fact, my boys are excelling. Yes, we all memorized when we were young, but this tells you why, which will help more down the line. Maybe its just me and my kids, but I'm OK with it.

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What happened to learning addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division through straight memorization? It isn't hard to know that 8 x 9 is 72 because that's just something easy to memorize... But common core idiots will make it so that 8 x 9 = 4 x 2 x 3 x 3. I love simple math. Over complicating something so simple is just, well, counterproductive.

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This.
No one needs to know some root analysis on why 8x9=72. It's 72 b/c it is.

I can remember in my calculus class, first thing we did was taking limits. Come to find out, they were just showing you that so you understood how derivatives worked. No one gives a shite how some mathmatician figured this out hundreds of years ago and how he did it, taking derivatives are easy memorization.

You don't need to know the how or why behind math until you get to college. All math before advanced college classes should be memorization, and if you can't do that, then don't go into engineering or physics.

The world isn't full of critical thinkers, so quit trying to make 10 year olds critical thinkers.

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You don't need to know the how or why behind math until you get to college. All math before advanced college classes should be memorization, and if you can't do that, then don't go into engineering or physics.

The world isn't full of critical thinkers, so quit trying to make 10 year olds critical thinkers.

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this is retarded

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hat happened to learning addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division through straight memorization? It isn't hard to know that 8 x 9 is 72 because that's just something easy to memorize... But common core idiots will make it so that 8 x 9 = 4 x 2 x 3 x 3. I love simple math. Over complicating something so simple is just, well, counterproductive.

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I see it this way, math is math and numbers don't lie. I don't care how they get to the answer as long as they are getting the correct answer. I do everything from simple addition and subtraction to complex trig and plane coordinate geometry in my job and I use a variety of accepted methods to achieve my goal, the correct answer.

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Can you recall from memory what 18 x 24 is though? That's the reasoning behind it. So that kids understand what they are actually doing instead of memorizing facts for the purpose of it.

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no but i can recall what 8x4 is, and i can recall what 8x2 is, and what 1x24 is, and i can recall how to add, so there's that.

There's no science behind how multiplication works. 18x24 is 423 b/c it is, just like 2+2 is 4. Math is simple.

The majority (not all) of people hate it because someone told them to, or just want to be mad at something and bitch on facebook. Some hate it because they don't understand in the first place, so they feel dumb. Others feel it should be taught how they were taught and no other way. Not everyone will be happy and there will always be someone bitching about education. I have never seen these wild examples you see on facebook with my kids work.