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re: Teen falls 400ft off drop tower ride to his death in Orlando theme park

Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:20 pm to
I do believe they would shut that whole park down for a safety shutdown and OSHA will have a field day in there. Does anyone know if the park remains open?
Posted by Mud_Bone
Member since Dec 2021
2357 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:21 pm to
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He slid out underneath the pull down harness


That almost looked intentional.


EDITED: AFTER seeing the picture of the poor kid barely fitting in the chair and the pull down safety feature not secure, it is a tragic event. I'm not going to call it an accident because someone failed to do their job.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 7:02 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59280 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:22 pm to
Look at the picture he never had the harness locked down. He is basically holding it on himself.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14933 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:23 pm to
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That almost looked international.


Agreed. Domestically you fall upwards.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18704 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Look at the picture he never had the harness locked down. He is basically holding it on himself.


He appears to me to be holding onto the seat, not the harness. The harness appears to be down as far as it can go before it's restricted by his large torso. Honestly the light probably went off and it's locked. But because of the rigid design of the ride's harness and this guy's large body, when it's pressed against his chest there's still a huge gap in the harness by his legs. Add the downward force acting on 300lbs+ and that smooth plastic and he probably plopped right out.

The ride is poorly designed IMO but also the worker should have told the guy he couldn't ride. The question is if he was trained to do that kind of inspection or if the person was supposed to be good to go if the light went off.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14430 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:36 pm to
That splat noise
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59280 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:36 pm to
that sounds like a very thorough explanation of what did happen
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59280 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:37 pm to
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That splat noise


that wasn't no french fry hitting the pavement that was a grown arse potato.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Maybe this was an attempt at getting something cool on video, like a stunt gone bad. They were asking a lot of questions, seems to distract the employee. Maybe the rider squirmed out of the harness. He seemed to be on the outside of the harness when it slowed near the bottom, throwing him to the ground.


I dont see any of the shite you're talking about.

I think dude was just too big to properly lock the mechanism that holds people in the ride.

You can see how much higher his is than the other people's before they start up. Either he was too big for the ride, or they didn't lock it tight enough.

I just think his weight pulled him from under the harness.

Beats me why there wasn't a strap between the harness mechanism and the seat.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2842 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:48 pm to
If you’ve never done a failure investigation, you’ve got the right mindset for it.


quote:

The ride is poorly designed IMO but also the worker should have told the guy he couldn't ride. The question is if he was trained to do that kind of inspection or if the person was supposed to be good to go if the light went off.


Your right, in simple terms, a path existed for him between the chair and the harness AND the downward forces acting on his body were greater than the forces securing him in place.

From a design perspective, the top bar should only latch when it’s below a certain angle. There was no way that kid was going to stay in there under the 3+ G’s he was experiencing at the moment the ride halted. That’s a 300 pound kid, easy. He was going through that no matter what. The engineers that designed this should have seen this coming. The family will rightfully so, go after them. This was an utter failure in design.

As far as the “light”, that’s probably all that kid is trained to look at. He was likely told “as long as that light is on, you’re safe”. Since he’s not a ride designer, he’s working off of trust. Now he gets to spend the rest of his life playing the “what if” game and believing he could have saved that kid If something were just slightly different.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 12:50 pm
Posted by TwoFace
Member since Mar 2018
1324 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:05 pm to
Meh, I watched on my phone while drinking coffee, without my cheaters.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5606 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Help the kid? Zero chance he needed help at that point. Looked to me like a manager stood over him and was calling to report the incident. Also looked like the other guy was getting the other riders off the ride.


Called having compassion. People used to show this but it’s mostly lost in todays world. The kid was alive after he fell, he didn’t die until he got to the hospital. The fact that one person went over to him afterwards and a bunch of others just watch or left is sad. People rather film shite and get likes on social media than help there fellow man.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56875 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Called having compassion. People used to show this but it’s mostly lost in todays world. The kid was alive after he fell, he didn’t die until he got to the hospital. The fact that one person went over to him afterwards is sad. People rather film shite and get likes on social media than help there fellow man.



Man, I've never been in such a situation, but I'd be terrified to see what kind of shape that kid was in up close. It doesn't have anything to do with compassion, but being haunted by those images for the rest of my life. I'd hope that I'd man up and try and help, but frick, not much that can be done in that situation.

I was in TN hiking a couple of months ago at Forest Falls, and a dog somehow fell off of a 100 foot cliff, hit the ground about 50 feet from me. A group of rock climbers that were closer wrangled it up and calmed it down. It survived but broke his legs, hips, or both. It seemed like it was someone's pet, we had seen it roaming around up top by itself, no collar. It was friendly though.

Since that group was tending to it, we kept hiking, and when came back, they'd left it on the trail all alone. I figured that they'd gone to get the ranger, and I was right. When we walked up to the parking lot, a ranger was pulling in to try and bring him up. Not sure what happened after that. But even that kind of fricked me up.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24216 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:11 pm to
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As far as the “light”, that’s probably all that kid is trained to look at


Seems doubtful, every ride I've been on they come by and manually test it first.

Seems hard to believe under the current circumstances that some sort of mechanical failure did not also occur. I have to assume that the engineers would have tested large bodies?

Also incredibly hard to believe that a seat belt is not standard on these types of rides as mentioned over and over. Maybe there's a reason its not? Its what $50 at most per rider?
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5606 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Man, I've never been in such a situation, but I'd be terrified to see what kind of shape that kid was in. It doesn't have anything to do with compassion, but of being haunted by those images for the rest of my life. I'd hope that I'd man up and go help, but frick.


I totally understand where you’re coming from. Point I was making is that I know in todays world a lot of people (esp young people) just lack that compassion and just wanna film shite for likes rather than help. Take the woman being raped in a Philly subways a few months ago. People were filming it instead of trying to help the poor woman. And The crew members of this video imo displayed that. One sat there and the two others just kept assuring he was strapped in.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7636 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:17 pm to
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I do believe they would shut that whole park down for a safety shutdown and OSHA will have a field day in there. Does anyone know if the park remains open?


Earlier report said other rides are expected to be open today. This isn’t really a theme or amusement park. It’s an entertainment area on the main non-Disney tourist area of Orlando. It is basically on the street.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5606 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:20 pm to
I live in the area and a buddy of mine sent me a photo he got of the kid on the ride prior to it starting and the harnest doesn’t even fit him. He’s entirely to big for it, so it looks like it wouldn’t be able to lock. I’d post the pic on here but I’m not sure how to post a pic I received through a text.
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6555 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:21 pm to
The kid that died was not in the group of 3 riders being filmed. He was on the far left of the video before the ride was raised.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30523 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:23 pm to
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I’d post the pic on here but I’m not sure how to post a pic I received through a text.


Iphone?
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5606 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:24 pm to
Yeah.
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