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re: Teen falls 400ft off drop tower ride to his death in Orlando theme park
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:21 pm to AndyCBR
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:21 pm to AndyCBR
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Not relevant. A human being should be tended to in this situation even if there may be no chance of survival. And how is one to know if they just stand there and do nothing.
You don't just let someone lay there and say frick it, not my probs. FFS if his brains are splattered all over the ground get a tarp and cover it up.
These are the animals that walk amongst us and it's getting worse. Our culture is pretty screwed.
They were probably in shock.
You're Monday Morning quarterbacking the situation, you watched the video knowing a kid was going to fall out of the ride, it was just another normal night for them and suddenly a body has fell from the sky and is laying on the ground.
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:24 pm to cajunangelle
Damn. 
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:30 pm to AndyCBR
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You at least check the dude's vitals to see if he is alive. Then if there is a pulse you administer CPR.
Putting aside the obvious error in that statement, the average person is going to have hell finding a pulse on a 6’-6” 280 lb. kid anyway.
You assess the situation and decide whether you are qualified to do anything to help. We aren’t talking about someone who fainted, tripped and broke their arm, or went into sudden cardiac arrest. We are talking about a kid who hit the ground at something like 75 mph. If the kid is still alive, moving him is very likely to be risky.
I wouldn’t fault someone for trying, but I certainly wouldn’t fault them for letting professionals handle it either.
I do agree in principle that the “let me get a video of this” mentality nowadays is fairly nauseating. But I don’t think the assistance this kid received from bystanders would have been very different 50 years ago - other than probably taking longer for someone to call 911.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:41 pm to lostinbr
Terrible. I've witnessed about 4 jumpers / extreme height falls in 26 years of fire department paramedicine, the highest one of 30 stories, and the craziest one of some lady having a smoke break in a parking structure and having a patch of hair ripped from her head as the jumper went by. I can say with certainty this young man felt nothing. I'm sure he was asystolic at paramedic contact and determined as a field death. Sad indeed a good soul lost. God bless him and his family.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:43 pm to Tigris
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That ride is as tall as the tallest skyscraper in Arkansas
OK. Is this serious or comedy? I honestly have no idea.
The ride is 43 stories tall. It's not a joke, either way you take that.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 2:52 am to RazorBroncs
Makes it worse when you read that the young man was a great student and seemed like a good kid. Was just to big and should have never been allowed on Ride. Said in article he had been turned away from numerous rides that day. The park will be sued , the ride builder will be sued and many more sued all because someone didn't say sorry your to big for this ride as others had said that day.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:21 am to Grievous Angel
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I'm not. How many G's were they under as that thing decelerated? Probably a good bit. Many people can't hold their own body weight like that.. Add a few Gs, and a guy that's almost 300 lbs? Forget it. He squirted right out. Too much mass out over the seat, and too much space between the shoulder bar and the edge of his seat. He was doomed from the start.
Don't forget that the chairs tilt forward a bit at the top as well. You can see when they get to the bottom and the rides comes to a stop, the chais tilting back into the start position.
Accounting for that, the fact that it looks like he's wearing athletic shorts (ie slippery) of some kind, combined with the harness either not locking or coming unlocked at some point, his only hope was to hold himself in. And that wasn't happening.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:22 am to CalCajun
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Terrible. I've witnessed about 4 jumpers / extreme height falls in 26 years of fire department paramedicine, the highest one of 30 stories, and the craziest one of some lady having a smoke break in a parking structure and having a patch of hair ripped from her head as the jumper went by. I can say with certainty this young man felt nothing. I'm sure he was asystolic at paramedic contact and determined as a field death.
You hear about unsurvivable accidents sometimes where they say the victim was taken to the hospital where they were pronounced dead. Would paramedics load up someone like him knowing that he's already dead so they can pronounce him at the hospital instead of right there in front of everybody? I have a hard time believing there was life in that kid after he hit the ground
Posted on 3/26/22 at 11:10 am to Byrdybyrd05
Damn. Sad as hell.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 12:38 pm to Corso
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You hear about unsurvivable accidents sometimes where they say the victim was taken to the hospital where they were pronounced dead. Would paramedics load up someone like him knowing that he's already dead so they can pronounce him at the hospital instead of right there in front of everybody? I have a hard time believing there was life in that kid after he hit the ground
Yup, I've done it.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 1:39 pm to AndyCBR
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You sure know a lot more about this guys condition than I do based on the short video. You at least check the dude's vitals to see if he is alive. Then if there is a pulse you administer CPR. It's how humans are supposed to treat other humans. I'm not talking about a person who is a red stain on the concrete. Don't be obtuse.
Sure you can check a pulse. He fell 400 feet. There is no pulse. You’d be disturbing a crime scene and a multi million dollar investigation. Every bone in that poor kids body is probably broken. Every organ has ruptured. There is nothing to be done in that situation.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 2:56 pm to LSU alum wannabe
He was still alive after the fall. He knew on the way up he was in trouble.
340 lbs at 14 years old
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“They didn’t secure the seatbelt on him,” she said. He was also breathing just after the fall, she said, but because he had fallen on his stomach, no one could perform CPR. His arms and legs appeared to be broken, she said.
340 lbs at 14 years old
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“He was panicking when he was going up,” Yarnell Sampson, the dad of Tyre Sampson, told WOFL. “He was explaining to his friend next to him, ‘I don’t know man. If I don’t make it down, please tell my Mom and Daddy I love them.’ For him to say something like that, he must have felt something.”
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:04 pm to TigerintheNO
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He was still alive after the fall
Describe alive.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:11 pm to LSU alum wannabe
The kid's family has hired lawyer Benjamin Crump of George Floyd and Trayvon Martin fame. This is going to get ugly and they didn't check his seat because they are racist. Just tear the damn ride down now.
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:21 pm to TigerintheNO
Why was this thread anchored?
This post was edited on 3/26/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 3/27/22 at 11:44 am to cajunangelle
quote:I haven't read through the thread and don't even pretend to know how these rides work.
It appears as if a light goes on at the operators panel when all seat harnesses/belts? are securely fastened.
It seems obvious he was too big to lock the harness in, but wouldn't there be a safety mechanism that shouldn't even allow the ride to start unless all harnesses are locked in? Assuming so, it would seem like it had to be a ride malfunction, no?
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