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re: Technology in new cars
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:30 pm to alphaandomega
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:30 pm to alphaandomega
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I wish I could find a simply, well built truck without all the crap. I dont need a fricking seat that vibrates when someone passes me on the left. I dont need heated cup holders. I dont need a damn light to shine on the ground when I open my door and I especially dont need automated step rails.
I need good power in the engine.
Air conditioning (and heat).
Comfortable seats.
I do like electric windows and locks.
The rest of that bullshite is just there to provide dealerships with a revenue stream when it breaks
According to the OT, people are 6'4" CEOs that drive this
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:33 pm to Dominate308
And people wonder and complain about why vehicles have went up in price so much. God forbid you be without a screen for two seconds. We have phones that can do all that crap. Waste of money and I am into car audio and tech but Jesus enough is enough.
Just wish they offered the other top of the line features without all the extra crap that breaks. I mean new cars have the sensors around the car plus cameras for full 360 view, wtf do you need sensors for if you can see all the way around?
No I'm not a Boomer, millennial actual, just think it's gotten stupid.
Just wish they offered the other top of the line features without all the extra crap that breaks. I mean new cars have the sensors around the car plus cameras for full 360 view, wtf do you need sensors for if you can see all the way around?
No I'm not a Boomer, millennial actual, just think it's gotten stupid.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:36 pm to klrstix
quote:
I have been told by those within the car/dealership industry that this is a strategic part of the decision process for the Toyota/Nissan/Honda brands..
They tend to wait to adapt newer gadgets/technology/features so as to maintain their brand's reliability perception/record...
Not sure of the truth of that but there it is...
Whatever they have to say to potential buyers to make a sale.....
The reality is that their products are behind on tech, and buyers that place a value on that are going elsewhere.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:38 pm to CarRamrod
quote:Your post heavily implied it.
im not saying they arent competing
quote:They're less of a niche market and more of a new company.
Im saying that tesla is a niche market, and there is nothing wrong with that.
The Model 3 is not a niche car, not in the least. The Model Y will likely outsell the Model 3.
quote:Pretty weird that you're saying I'm getting bent out of shape when i said Tesla is competing and your reply in this very post is that you don't really disagree. You kind agree with my statement that they're competing but you think I'm bent out of shape by saying they're competing...you lost me there.
You tesla people get so bent out of shape when somone disagrees with the notion that Tesla is on the same playing field at GM, Ford, etc
quote:You guys have been saying every new EV will be the Tesla killer for 5+ years now. How's that working out for Jaguar, Audi, and Mercedes with their newest EVs? Companies are finding it harder and harder to compete with Tesla in the EV market. Everyone said all these companies would just "catch up" with Tesla once they entered the game, but we're seeing that it's not remotely that simple.
But soon the big boys will have just as good or better electric cars and tesla that sells one thing will be watered down.
Also, the more and more popular EVs get, the less market share Tesla has in the EV game, but more and more people will realize how far ahead they are and buy more Teslas. People don't buy Teslas mainly because EVs are so new and unknown, a diferent way of life. If you break through that, that will only help Tesla in the long run.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:39 pm to Dicky
quote:
This is the new 2020 Highlander coming out in a week or so.
Took them long enough to bring Apple Car Play to their products. I think the American and European brands had that 7-8 years ago.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:43 pm to lsu777
quote:
And people wonder and complain about why vehicles have went up in price so much. God forbid you be without a screen for two seconds. We have phones that can do all that crap. Waste of money and I am into car audio and tech but Jesus enough is enough.
The Fed Law requires all vehicles have a backup camera so you're getting a screen
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:17 pm to shel311
quote:thy are competing like ULL would compete with LSU.
im not saying they arent competing
Your post heavily implied it.
quote:pure electric cars are niche....it is a fact. Just like Buying online used to be niche.
They're less of a niche market and more of a new company.
The Model 3 is not a niche car, not in the least. The Model Y will likely outsell the Model 3.
quote:its your attitude. your replies come off as pretentious. so yea it sounds like you get bend out of shape.
but you think I'm bent out of shape by saying they're competing...you lost me there.
quote:lol wut?
You guys have been saying every new EV will be the Tesla killer for 5+ years now.
quote:yahoo used to be the number 1 search engine.
You guys have been saying every new EV will be the Tesla killer for 5+ years now. How's that working out for Jaguar, Audi, and Mercedes with their newest EVs? Companies are finding it harder and harder to compete with Tesla in the EV market. Everyone said all these companies would just "catch up" with Tesla once they entered the game, but we're seeing that it's not remotely that simple.
Also, the more and more popular EVs get, the less market share Tesla has in the EV game, but more and more people will realize how far ahead they are and buy more Teslas. People don't buy Teslas mainly because EVs are so new and unknown, a diferent way of life. If you break through that, that will only help Tesla in the long run.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:32 pm to dallastiger55
quote:Technology important to me:
Is the main center infotainment screen a big deal to you when shopping for a car/truck/suv?
side lane change warning system
front collision warning and automatic braking
variable cruise control
tire pressure monitoring
service date monitoring
Blutooth
Amazon Alexa integration
Android Auto and Apple Car Play
low-light illumination throughout the vehicle in side panels, cup holders, under dash, etc.
lots of USB ports, including a high speed port
wireless phone charging
Power inverter and outlets
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:32 pm to CarRamrod
quote:No because ULL has no chance to ever be on par with LSU, so that's a bad comparison. Tesla is a company barely 10 years old going up against companies that have been around for a decade. Your ULL vs LSU comparison is a really bad one. It would be more like comparing a rookie NBA player with loads of talent vs a vet in his prime.
thy are competing like ULL would compete with LSU.
quote:Fair enough, but once they become more of the norm with all the big companies going more and more to EV, they will be no longer niche, and Tesla is far ahead of everyone else, so that advantage is just as much Tesla's as every other company.
pure electric cars are niche....it is a fact. Just like Buying online used to be niche.
quote:Huh? What specific post?
its your attitude. your replies come off as pretentious. so yea it sounds like you get bend out of shape.
quote:Exactly what I said
lol wut?
quote:You realize that can work both ways, right? Ford and GM used to sell a lot more cars than Tesla could be what is said 20+ years from now.
yahoo used to be the number 1 search engine.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:39 pm to shel311
quote:
No because ULL has no chance to ever be on par with LSU, so that's a bad comparison. Tesla is a company barely 10 years old going up against companies that have been around for a decade.
Going up against companies in certain segments, not against companies in general.
ETA, Do you think Tesla will be as big and diversified as ford or GM in another 10 years? No. They won’t be competing company to company. Does Tesla have a chance to be the next insert big 3 company here? I mean it took them 100 years to get to this point.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:48 pm to CaptainsWafer
quote:No, I don't.
ETA, Do you think Tesla will be as big and diversified as ford or GM in another 10 years?
quote:We may just be arguing semantics at this point but even if they're not as big as a GM 10 years from now, IMO they will absolutely be competing with them.
They won’t be competing company to company.
quote:Yes IMO. not saying it's a lock or will happen any time/decade soon, but sure they have a chance.
Does Tesla have a chance to be the next insert big 3 company here?
quote:Did you mean 10? They've come pretty darn far for a 10 year old company who makes only EVs. I'd argue they've made remarkable strides in just 10 years.
I mean it took them 100 years to get to this point.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:48 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
I feel like my next car needs at least a 9/10 inch screen to future proof itself.
Moore's law says this is an impossibility with computer-based tech.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:53 pm to shel311
quote:
We may just be arguing semantics at this point but
Yea.
quote:
Yes IMO. not saying it's a lock or will happen any time/decade soon, but sure they have a chance.
Yea any time soon was my point, it took Ford/GM/Dodge 100 years to get to where they are as companies, including the other names/companies they own.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:58 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
Technology important to me:
side lane change warning system
front collision warning and automatic braking
variable cruise control
tire pressure monitoring
service date monitoring
Blutooth
Amazon Alexa integration
Android Auto and Apple Car Play
low-light illumination throughout the vehicle in side panels, cup holders, under dash, etc.
lots of USB ports, including a high speed port
wireless phone charging
Power inverter and outlets
All this plus:
push button start
automatic headlights
no key entry and lock
navigation
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:13 pm to madmaxvol
I’ll have to reread that thread.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:15 pm to shel311
quote:
Everyone said all these companies would just "catch up" with Tesla once they entered the game, but we're seeing that it's not remotely that simple.
Tesla still has a long way to go to catch up as well and it doesn't look like they do in certain major areas like self repair.
Ever listen to the horror stories of people who need these damn things worked on for something major. You can't do it yourself like you can with every other manufacturer unless you live in one of those glorious states that have right to repair, which maybe is just Massachusetts.
Friend hit a deer with his Tesla 3, minimum time he will be without a car is 6 months. He had to buy a junker truck because he has no idea when he is getting his car back. Have fun with that shite, I like to work on my own vehicles.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:15 pm to Big Chipper
quote:
Technology important to me:
side lane change warning system
front collision warning and automatic braking
variable cruise control
tire pressure monitoring
service date monitoring
Blutooth
Amazon Alexa integration
Android Auto and Apple Car Play
low-light illumination throughout the vehicle in side panels, cup holders, under dash, etc.
lots of USB ports, including a high speed port
wireless phone charging
Power inverter and outlets
quote:All this plus:
All this plus:
push button start
automatic headlights
no key entry and lock
navigation
customizable seat support for back
Heated steering wheel
Heated side mirrors
Heated and A/C seats
I'd like an LED rear windshield that flashes like a seizure inducer that says "Back the frick off!"
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:21 pm to Dam Guide
quote:Yea, customer service seems to be by far one of their biggest cons and things they need to work on.
Tesla still has a long way to go to catch up as well and it doesn't look like they do in certain major areas like self repair.
Ever listen to the horror stories of people who need these damn things worked on for something major. You can't do it yourself like you can with every other manufacturer unless you live in one of those glorious states that have right to repair, which maybe is just Massachusetts.
Friend hit a deer with his Tesla 3, minimum time he will be without a car is 6 months. He had to buy a junker truck because he has no idea when he is getting his car back. Have fun with that shite, I like to work on my own vehicles.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:47 pm to Dam Guide
quote:oh wow.
Friend hit a deer with his Tesla 3, minimum time he will be without a car is 6 months. He had to buy a junker truck because he has no idea when he is getting his car back. Have fun with that shite, I like to work on my own vehicles.
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