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Technical analysis of stocks question
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:22 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:22 am
Let’s say for the sake of argument that you came up with a formula that predicted the movement of stocks and as a result you made over a 50% return on all your stock investments. Would not the SEC accuse you of insider trading and shut you down plus probably arrest you?
Suppose you showed them and proved to them your formula worked and was legit. What would they do? Shut you down? Have you killed?
Is getting into technical stock analysis a waste of time?
Suppose you showed them and proved to them your formula worked and was legit. What would they do? Shut you down? Have you killed?
Is getting into technical stock analysis a waste of time?
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:25 am to Geekboy
They would make a movie and cast Leonardo as you.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:25 am to Geekboy
You would get clinton'd
AI would be ahead of you anyway tho
AI would be ahead of you anyway tho
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:25 am to Geekboy
That’s not how any of this works. I don’t think you know what insider trading is
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:25 am to Geekboy
All technical analysis works some of the time. It is a fun rabbit trail. Also once something gets “out”, it loses its effectiveness. Like everyone watching the Fibonacci retracements for example.
If it works, you tell no one except maybe family that will keep quiet and continue to build wealth.
If it works, you tell no one except maybe family that will keep quiet and continue to build wealth.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 8:27 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 8:31 am to athenslife101
Companies that operate on a stock exchange and are public.They have to release public statements on their financial health. They may open themselves up in other ways to public review to other financial institutions. All of which is common public knowledge.
You get in trouble when you use non-public information into the formula and there are a lot of controls around that.
In financial services, it’s called the barrier. Either you can be on the public side of the barrier that only knows what’s publicly available and that’s where your traders and analysts sit. Or you can be on the private side which knows private information due to providing financial services but is completely banned from communicating with the public side of the barrier .
If people were curious how that works
You get in trouble when you use non-public information into the formula and there are a lot of controls around that.
In financial services, it’s called the barrier. Either you can be on the public side of the barrier that only knows what’s publicly available and that’s where your traders and analysts sit. Or you can be on the private side which knows private information due to providing financial services but is completely banned from communicating with the public side of the barrier .
If people were curious how that works
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:12 am to Geekboy
quote:
Let’s say for the sake of argument that you came up with a formula that predicted the movement of stocks and as a result you made over a 50% return on all your stock investments. Would not the SEC accuse you of insider trading and shut you down plus probably arrest you?
Unless your method consists of using non-public information, there’d be no grounds to charge you with insider trading.
There’s also no chance you’re consistently getting those kinds of returns without using non-public information.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:14 am to Geekboy
Insider trading is using prior knowledge of stock news (both positive and negative) to place trades prior to it being released and reaping the rewards.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:20 am to Geekboy
Just get elected to Congress and you won't have to worry about it.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:35 am to Geekboy
quote:
Is getting into technical stock analysis a waste of time?
Are you talking about quant trading?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:42 am to Geekboy
I’m sure you’re onto something here. Nobody has ever thought of doing that.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:50 am to athenslife101
…Now tell me about congress
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:51 am to Geekboy
No, Renaissance Technologies has been doing it for decades, they’ve done so well so consistently, that I think the charge 3/30 on outside money.
Over the long term, fundamentals win, but in the modern market, a lot of short term movements can be attributed to technical factors.
For you, yes
Over the long term, fundamentals win, but in the modern market, a lot of short term movements can be attributed to technical factors.
quote:
Is getting into technical stock analysis a waste of time?
For you, yes
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:57 am to tylerlsu2008
This is the correct answer.
You’d be Jim Simons and start the Medallion Fund.
This has already been done, and he’s the best to ever do it.
They AVERAGE 66% return per year.
You’d be Jim Simons and start the Medallion Fund.
This has already been done, and he’s the best to ever do it.
They AVERAGE 66% return per year.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:18 am to Geekboy
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Technical analysis of stocks question
You'd still be behind the algorithms that can make near instant trades.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:37 am to Geekboy
The brightest mathematical and quant theory minds in the world are spending literally millions of dollars a day using advanced AI algorithms to stay just a few seconds ahead of the other guys
doing the same thing in this game.
There is a zero point zero percent chance that you can outmanuever them with a quant strategy of your own
doing the same thing in this game.
There is a zero point zero percent chance that you can outmanuever them with a quant strategy of your own
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:11 pm to No Colors
Also though, the thing is reading the market also requires understanding potential other buyers. One of the most important investment groups are retirement funds and retirement funds have their hands forced to react to markets in very specific ways for example.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:14 pm to Geekboy
quote:
Let’s say for the sake of argument that you came up with a formula that predicted the movement of stocks and as a result you made over a 50% return on all your stock investments. Would not the SEC accuse you of insider trading and shut you down plus probably arrest you? Suppose you showed them and proved to them your formula worked and was legit. What would they do? Shut you down? Have you killed?
Gonna be straight up with you, you sound retarded.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 12:20 pm to Geekboy
I make 100% all the way up to 4000% on many options. I just take small positions bc I don’t have insider knowledge.
3 weeks ago I bought a SMCI call for .52 ($52) and sold it the same week for $10.45 ($10450.00). Wish I had bought 100 of those calls.
3 weeks ago I bought a SMCI call for .52 ($52) and sold it the same week for $10.45 ($10450.00). Wish I had bought 100 of those calls.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 12:26 pm
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