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re: Teachers of the OT: Dealing with Burnout

Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:22 am to
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11149 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:22 am to
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I'll compare education and degrees if you would like


I propose an academic decathalon.

You chose educator as your career. You’re a great baw!
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60959 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:24 am to
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Not to mention Salt's being monitored by the state now

What is "salt?"


I’m pretty sure it autocorrected SLT’s. Teachers have to write Student Learning Targets every year. Often, the state/district will provide guidelines that make reaching those SLT’s nearly impossible. We are set up for failure at every turn. SLT’s, standardized test score expectations that are completely unrealistic, anything that happens allows the district to kick the can down until accountability for everything ultimately lands on the teacher. Not to mention that there is zero accountability for the students and parents, and they know it. It’s all mind bogglingly frustrating.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60959 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:26 am to
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When I started, I made $18.8k/yr. and

Hot damn. Was that at a private school?


Public. 1995, Tangipahoa Parish.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15182 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:15 am to
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I'm close to just quitting and calling it an end


I'd stop doing all the shite you don't like as you stated and just teach ubtil the fire you.

My belief is they wont. They can't afford to.

We have a friend who quit jumping through their hoops years ago whose been teaching 25 years. She so fricking good and they have no teachers they won't do shite to her.

She doesn't play the update grades online shite every day and she doesn't use a PC. Grades go home with kids with notes old school. She actually teaches with a marker board (no Promethian) all day hand writing.

Students love her and are not stressed when the come in and don't have to take out laptops and string cords everywhere and stare at a giant screen.

She teaches Math and all the kids are doing very well. She's kind of an old battle ax but it works.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:30 am to
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Wait we spend more money per pupil than most states and still they can't read.


The majority of language development/preparation happens AT HOME well before a child enters school. Unfortunately, what a child is exposed to (or not) in his first years is rather predictive of future language abilities.

This is why having educated parents who read to their children and speak with elevated language around their kids is so important, especially in the early years. They're little sponges that absorb the rhyme and rhythm of a language, and even though they may not understand exactly what is being said, they bank it for the future.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:43 am to
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I hear a constant refrain about how much teachers hate the tests and don't like teaching for the test. We also hear how our education system is not producing the results it should produce.


In a perfect world, where each student is reading on or above grade level, you don't have any teachers complaining about standardized testing. Unfortunately, in EBR anyway, we have a large number of students who are just passed along though the grades without ever fixing the deficiencies they have in the first place.

Can you imagine having an 8th grade student who can barely read? Like maybe at a first grade level? Then imagine your pay may be tied to whether said student (who shouldn't be in your classroom at all) achieves a certain score on a standardized test for 8th graders. It happens all the time. This is why teachers are so mad.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2298 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:47 am to
Agreed when I have a 5th grade student who is reading at a 1st grade level. They've been passed multiple times due to age but they have no clue what is going on. So they get frustrated and act out. This then becomes a distraction for those that want to learn and those that are struggle lose interests because this individual was promoted anyway.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:56 am to
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So they get frustrated and act out.


It's a tale as old as time. Actually, it's a tale as old as someone decided children learn through osmosis and just having them in a room together will help them achieve.

This is why "inclusion" does not work in many cases. Those with the potential to be high achievers are stuck with a watered down curriculum, and the poor kids who don't even possess basic reading skills are stuck in a lose-lose situation, and it's extremely embarrassing for them.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65764 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 1:26 pm to
Not really much of a solution for any of that as long as it continues to be "racist" to separate classes based on intellect or compatibility.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43740 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:24 pm to
That’s crazy
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:54 pm to
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I'd stop doing all the shite you don't like as you stated and just teach ubtil the fire you.

My belief is they wont. They can't afford to.


The evaluation systems impllemented in most of the Southern states during the 2010s were designed to reward the best teachers and fire the worst. The reward ended up being less than $500 while the threat of being fired stayed. The system has driven many out of the profession and discouraged new people from entering. Now schools can't really get rid of teachers because there is nobody to replace them.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:15 pm to
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I'm not taking a 20k a year decline in pay


I wouldn't want a 20k pay cut either. We can hardly afford groceries now. Because of inflation, everything is going up except the wages.

There is a lot of douchebags posting on here, by reading these comments. This attitude is why the working conditions are so terrible in the south. People who post condescending/insensitive comments usually have people taking care of them, or security that others don't have, whether through nepotism, cronyism, or affirmative action. This was originally called "white privilege," but now it has come to include blacks also, because of affirmative action. Yet, they will all swear to others that they earned everything on their own through hard work, which is total bullshite. If you don't have family or a friend on the inside to help you, then you made your own bed and it's your problem, they will always say. These people are useless don't deserve the security or privilege that they have.
Posted by Candyman
Member since Sep 2017
641 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 1:58 pm to
People wonder why education is so terrible in Louisiana. When I taught at a local community college, there was an instructor that had this posted on his facebook page:

"frick the man, uncle Sam, I won't sell your crack, I won't wear your hat. I'm a pass your classes, I'm a learn your craft, I'm a frick your daughters, I'm burn your flags."

I knew that this job wasn't going to be for me, and I would never agree to work next to this instructor. This is what we have teaching young people.This is also why the quality of education is so terrible in Louisiana. If you want better quality teachers, then you have to pay them a decent salary. Otherwise, you can expect to get ghetto like this.
Posted by monroetiger1
Member since May 2008
546 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 2:05 pm to
I got out after 18 years, needed 2 more to some retirement, but I was done!! Best move I ever made, I don't regret doing it, but it was time for a change. I need to go back at some point and get 2 more years doing something just to get a little of the retirement, but don't see it anytime soon.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10748 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 4:52 pm to
This may be one of the most truthful and sincere post from a teacher that I have read on the OT. I could tell that you're one of the good teachers.

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I enjoy my job I really do, I love teaching, I love those "a ha" moments.
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teaching isn't about teaching anymore.
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I'm close to just quitting and calling it an end


Here's an idea:

There are many families that would love to home school their kids, but realize that it is a huge undertaking. Some of these families are extremely wealthy. There's an opportunity for a teacher to come in and easily make a 6 figure income year after year as a private instructor, with the right family.




Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6478 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 5:31 pm to
You have my sympathy. I can only imagine how frustrating it would be as a public school teacher.

Is it possible to move to a different part of the state? Working within a new system under different administration can give new life to a career.

As silly as it may seem, a change of scenery can make a difference.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
3126 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:06 pm to
My wife...26 years at the same HS...honors Economics and Civics
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7570 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:13 pm to
Like I said previously this is my 26th year, and my 5th different district. One inevitable truth I've discovered is that kids are kids no matter where you go. Kids of all races can be little shits and will test the limits to see how much they can get away with. Classroom management is the most important skill a teacher can have - explain and model your rules, policies, and expectations very clear the first week of school and don't waver. Use consequence ladders, document all the different things you've done and steps you've taken, contact the parents. However, all of that means nothing if you don't have an administrator who supports you and is willing to administer discipline. Nowadays they are few and far between, but they are out there. Having a no-nonsense principal makes all the difference.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60959 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Classroom management is the most important skill a teacher can have - explain and model your rules, policies, and expectations very clear the first week of school and don't waver.


The Harry Wong way is the right way. Once you get beyond that, the factors determining outcome are against us.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2619 posts
Posted on 11/6/24 at 8:33 pm to
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I love teaching


I assume most of the teachers in this thread are probably women. But for the few men, you could always consider becoming a plant baw. You won’t get the summers off, but you will make more money.
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