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re: Teacher Friend Posted This About Grading Papers
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:52 pm to pioneerbasketball
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:52 pm to pioneerbasketball
I've been an English teacher for almost 12 years, and the chart is definitely accurate in terms of total hours required to grade an essay if you do it correctly. Most English teachers don't though. It's embarrassing how subjective and anal retentive ELA teachers are when it comes to grading papers.
I ascribe to the Richard Straub philosophy on essay feedback: open dialogue through focused comments is key to developing student writers. That requires time. 5 minutes per essay is about what I take per student.
But the thing is, English doesn't necessarily need routine grades and certainly not ones that require extensive amounts of time to complete. With current technology (Google Forms for example), you can have 100+ assessments graded the second they hit submit. I imagine we're not too far away from Google Forms transferring directly into the electronic grade book cutting down even more time.
So let's say I have 100 papers or so to grade and need 8 hours. I tell my students to give me about two weeks to get them back.
That means I can have them finished in two weeks with less than an hour a day of grading. Probably less because there will be some who need less commentary and rarely those that will need more.
I assign two formal essays per semester. That's four weeks of focused grading.
The rest of the time is just regular shite that doesn't take a whole lot of time at all in terms of grading.
Teachers are the absolute worst whiners, and yes, I agree with the poster above: it's because it's a field dominated by women.
I ascribe to the Richard Straub philosophy on essay feedback: open dialogue through focused comments is key to developing student writers. That requires time. 5 minutes per essay is about what I take per student.
But the thing is, English doesn't necessarily need routine grades and certainly not ones that require extensive amounts of time to complete. With current technology (Google Forms for example), you can have 100+ assessments graded the second they hit submit. I imagine we're not too far away from Google Forms transferring directly into the electronic grade book cutting down even more time.
So let's say I have 100 papers or so to grade and need 8 hours. I tell my students to give me about two weeks to get them back.
That means I can have them finished in two weeks with less than an hour a day of grading. Probably less because there will be some who need less commentary and rarely those that will need more.
I assign two formal essays per semester. That's four weeks of focused grading.
The rest of the time is just regular shite that doesn't take a whole lot of time at all in terms of grading.
Teachers are the absolute worst whiners, and yes, I agree with the poster above: it's because it's a field dominated by women.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:54 pm to pioneerbasketball
Oh the horror!
ETA: looks like I made at least one teacher get her panties in a wad.
ETA: looks like I made at least one teacher get her panties in a wad.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:03 pm to Tigerbait357
If that were my kid I’m not sure I could even punish him for that
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:05 pm to upgrayedd
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Why do teachers constantly crave back patting while saying they don't want it?
Most teachers are women.
Women crave attention and validation
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:06 pm to pioneerbasketball
My brother is a teacher at Dallas ISD. He doesn't do this. Infact he was loving his Thanksgiving break.
This is attention whoring like no other.
This is attention whoring like no other.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:28 pm to pioneerbasketball
Who are we kidding? Teachers don’t grade papers now a days. All students have to do now is turn it in and they get a participation trophy
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:30 pm to pioneerbasketball
Shout out to the good teachers out there
But to hell with the crybaby teachers out there constantly complaining about their part-time job
But to hell with the crybaby teachers out there constantly complaining about their part-time job
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:34 pm to ZIGG
Nobody forced them to be teachers. It's not like there isnt a ton of info out there that teachers get paid shite and work extra time.
Stop bitching and change careers then.
Stop bitching and change careers then.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:36 pm to LordSnow
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Stop bitching and change careers then.
These same whiners will tell you how much they love their jobs in the next breath.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:37 pm to pioneerbasketball
Don't give so many test and you wouldn't have so many test to grade.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:03 pm to bad93ex
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every election year there is a new proposal to increase taxes to fund the school systems.
Every industry raises costs. Simply put, as costs of living adjusts, the amount it costs to run a non-profit also increases.
Schools can’t add 2cents to every sale and make up the difference for cost of living adjustments.
When a school buys books, cabinets, computers etc all of those costs increase continuously. Why wouldn’t the amount needed to purchase them also increase?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:09 pm to tigerstripedjacket
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Every industry raises costs. Simply put, as costs of living adjusts, the amount it costs to run a non-profit also increases.
Are you saying that their cut of property taxes stays the same regardless of changes in the district?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:12 pm to tigerstripedjacket
When Edwin Edwards was governor.. He promised that all revenue generated by gambling (casino boats) would go towards education.
Not sure if this contributes to the conversation, just wanted to throw that out there.
Not sure if this contributes to the conversation, just wanted to throw that out there.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:12 pm to pioneerbasketball
if I were a teacher I’d make every rest a multiple choice and use a template over the test pages. Mark wrong ones, determine % right, assign grade......pow, on to the next. 30 seconds each maybe.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:33 pm to pioneerbasketball
Cry me a river Facebook teachers are under paid bs quit
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:37 pm to pioneerbasketball
I had a teacher in h.s. who gave us essay tests and had those frickers graded the next morning marked to hell in red. 
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:42 pm to pioneerbasketball
I guess teachers are the only profession that works outside of normal business hours.
When I get home from work I play with my kid until he goes to bed after dinner. Then I open my laptop and work until between midnight and 2am. So typically 10 to 20 extra hours a week. Not including weekends.
But I enjoy it and it's rewarding so it's worth it.
When I get home from work I play with my kid until he goes to bed after dinner. Then I open my laptop and work until between midnight and 2am. So typically 10 to 20 extra hours a week. Not including weekends.
But I enjoy it and it's rewarding so it's worth it.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:47 pm to pioneerbasketball
They work from 8-3 and are off 3mos+ every year.
IDGAF if you have to work 8-5 once per week.
IDGAF if you have to work 8-5 once per week.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:23 pm to Chuker
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100-150 students per class?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:36 pm to pioneerbasketball
In what universe would grading papers actually be considered work? I have graded my share of papers, anything u can do while watching football and drinking beer is not exactly taxing.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 6:48 pm
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