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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support

Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by lildaddy86
Hammond
Member since May 2016
259 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:44 pm to
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The first paternity test ordered was another man over 21 at the time. Has she filed charges against him yet?


Interesting.

If these were court ordered paternity test, obviously they knew the age of the men, why were no charges filed then.
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
880 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 11:23 pm to
bunch of Perry Masons on here.

there is no such thing as "statutory rape" in Louisiana. even in 2004-2005.

What this may likely be is Felony Carnal Knowledge, a third class felony. why he has not been charged, who knows. other than maybe the D.A.

it is creepy AF but lots of questions. why no complaint of rape until years after paternity established? where were the minors parents when the child was born?

the headline is completely misleading. not to say this guy isnt a grade A creep
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1084 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:19 am to
Updated story

daily mail
quote:

EXCLUSIVE: Louisiana mother who lost custody of her child to 'rapist who impregnated her when she was underage' claims he drugged and raped their DAUGHTER, 16, as well


quote:

On February 25, Abesleth in court documents accused Barnes of sexually abusing their daughter.

'Minor child contacted me (her mother) on February 23, 2022 with the suspicion that her father had drugged and sexually assaulted her two nights in a row,' the court documents state.

Abelseth stated that the Children's Hospital of New Orleans confirmed 'evidence of forced entry congruent with sexual assault'.

In the papers, she states: 'My daughter, minor child, was conceived as the product of the defendant raping me when I was a minor child of 16 years of age.

'I suspect drugs were used by him to sedate me as I was unable to move while he raped me.

'Now it is alleged that he has committed the same heinous crime on our 15-year-old daughter.'

On March 18, the allegations were dismissed by the court, which found that 'medical evidence does not support allegations in petition'. 

On March 20, she lost custody of her daughter, and has been forced to pay Barnes, 46, child support: furthermore, she says that Barnes is blocking their court-mandated daily phone calls.

Abelseth is said to have lost custody after giving her daughter a phone, which Barnes said the teenager was using to 'sext' her boyfriend and post sexually explicit TikToks.



Alot more in the article then just the selected quotes.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 1:40 am
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 3:05 am to
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Abelseth's saga began when she went in 2005 to the Pine Street bar, Ponchatoula Pub, with two of her friends, because one of her friends's brothers was in the bar. Barnes was friends with the brother, but Abelseth had never met him.


Only been to this place twice. Once when I was married with my then wife. The two of us had to have been the oldest ones there in our early 30s. The second was a tinder date who wasn't much younger than I but had some misleading photos. She wanted to meet there, told me what she had on, saw a lot more than what I needed to, and walked right out. She didn't notice me but she messaged me back. Wasn't nice but hey you were the one that wasn't honest.

eta: Point I wanted to make was the place to me as someone who at 31 and even now thought the place was more a younger crowd. Perhaps college age. Maybe it's me but I'd feel creepy hanging out there. Also all the other shite that happened there too.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 3:08 am
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 4:29 am to
Sounds like this women is getting a taste of what thousands of men have to go through during custody battles.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:11 am to
quote:

Sounds like this women is getting a taste of what thousands of men have to go through during custody battles.


Lot of bad takes in here, but this may take the crown
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
8599 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:17 am to
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Ponchatoula Pub

Same place Robert Bowers got beat to death in front of a packed bar but yet his killers walk free today. One is even a business owner.

I've had family work for PPD and TPSO, it's more corrupt than you really think it is. I've been in the company of several LEO at gatherings and the stories/pictures they share was pretty crazy.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103919 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:19 am to
… yeah.

If the article is on the level, all kinds of fricked up shite going on.

Edit - And frick him and the horse he rode in on for complaining about her getting the exam done.

If a doc turns up certain things in a normal visit, you get referred there whether you want to go or not.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 7:24 am
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:33 am to
Considering the amount of default apologists we got in here earlier, this part is pretty important as well:

quote:


Abelseth's saga began when she went in 2005 to the Pine Street bar, Ponchatoula Pub, with two of her friends, because one of her friends's brothers was in the bar. Barnes was friends with the brother, but Abelseth had never met him.

'I did not know him,' she said firmly.

The person who drove them to the bar wanted to leave, and Barnes said he would drive Abelseth home.

Her friends got lifts home with other people, leaving Abelseth and Barnes alone in his car.

Abelseth said she was 'highly intoxicated'.

'John Barnes offered to take me home,' Abelseth explained, in a later police report.

'Instead of bringing me to my house, John Barnes brought me to his home.

'He proceeded to rape me.'




No way in hell you don't know that your friends sister and her friends are high schoolers or that you would be unable to learn that information beforehand. In all honesty, comes off like clear predatory and pre-meditated behavior to get the intoxicated girl alone with you.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 7:35 am
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7557 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:46 am to
The judge needs some old fashioned remedy, fast!
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46367 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:54 am to
quote:

No way in hell you don't know that your friends sister and her friends are high schoolers or that you would be unable to learn that information beforehand


Very compelling point. Knicks out the “didn’t know she was underage bc she was in a bar” argument.

The article stating that she lost custody of the daughter 2 days after she complained the daughter was also drugged and raped by the dad is chilling. Either way, one of those parents is an absolute monster.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4267 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:59 am to
The gross injustice that happens in just the family court in livingston parish alone is staggering.
It is what happens when good o’ baws run amok.
Attorney and politician Sherman Mack and Judge Jeff Oglesbee (the other judge in family court out there) have made a solid reputation for being corrupt. The Advocate has had them in the spotlight on the front page last year. Then a few years back before that, Scott McKay and The Hayride took Sherman Mack to task over his greasy tactics for his own career advancement.

Somebody on another page said that courthouse is the mos eisley cantina of courthouses. Never will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Lol
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103919 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:06 am to
Who picks a fight with the old man and the farm kid then loses an arm?
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6570 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:16 am to
quote:

The article stating that she lost custody of the daughter 2 days after she complained the daughter was also drugged and raped by the dad is chilling


The article also says this, which I feel is getting overlooked.

quote:

The rows over child support and raising the child continued: in January 2013, Abelseth filed court documents claiming Barnes had another custody case ongoing, as the result of fathering a child with Amiee Ball. Abelseth said that Ball filed domestic abuse charges against Barnes. 


I want to know how the court ruled in him and Amiee Ball. If all of this is true, the other woman and the daughter being abused, then everyone who is covering for this guy needs to also be in jail. I don't know if it's all true or not.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46367 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:22 am to
quote:

If all of this is true, the other woman and the daughter being abused,


I’m starting to hope the mom is just insane. It’s the least painful answer for everyone involved.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103919 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:24 am to
It would be the least painful thing but I have a disgusting feeling that most, if not everything, she alleged is true.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46367 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:27 am to
It’s so easily proved, though. When mom took her to the hospital, did she tell them she suspected the daughter was drugged? If so, did they do blood work to test for drugs?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:29 am to
Seems more and more this guy is in fact, quite a POS. And has probably rode on the fact he has connections to avoid any sort of accountability most of his life

Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:35 am to
quote:

I’m starting to hope the mom is just insane. It’s the least painful answer for everyone involved.


So then how do you explain the domestic abuse charge from the unrelated woman?

And not sure how that would be the best outcome? The man still raped her, seems to have control and potential domestic abuse issues, so if she is unfit, that probably means the daughter spends the rest of her youth in the system, or corruption wins the day and the potential abusive and controlling father maintains custody.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46367 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:39 am to
quote:

So then how do you explain the domestic abuse charge from the unrelated woman?

And not sure how that would be the best outcome? The man still raped her, seems to have control and potential domestic abuse issues, so if she is unfit, that probably means the daughter spends the rest of her youth in the system.


I can’t explain any of it. It’s a huge jump from domestic abuse to repeated rape, including your own under aged daughter.

If mom is crazy and the worse he’s done is slap his ex-wife and sleep with a minor 17 years ago, that’s much better for the daughter since it means she likely isn’t being raped by her dad.

However, the more info that comes out, the worse it looks for daddy rapist.
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