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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:56 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:56 am to TigerintheNO
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Problem is her timeline:
-baby conceived in '05
-father finds out in '11
-father seeks and is awarded custody in '11
-mother files rape complaint in '15, 4 years after the judge awarded him custody
-mother is complaining about child support, her daughter was conceived 17+ years ago, she will turn 18 before this case is back in court
Yeah - this is the data I was waiting to see
Not much sympathy for the lady involved now. Did she allege forcible rape originally?
BUT it is at least statutory rape - is there a statutory limit on the delay? - didn't seem to count with the Mo Brooks brouhaha a few years ago.
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:02 am to ChineseBandit58
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Yeah - this is the data I was waiting to see
Why don't you read the actual recent reporting and not someone's poor summary of the initial story that is getting key things in the timeline wrong? such as when full custody was awarded.
LINK
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:06 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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Same place Robert Bowers got beat to death in front of a packed bar but yet his killers walk free today. One is even a business owner.
Read up on that. One of the scumbags, Crockett, had just gotten married that evening and was there with wedding guests. Bowers did nothing to provoke them, the other guy sucker punched him, he fell, unconscious, and Crockett jumped on him and was punching him and had to be pulled off.
Pure trash. Sentenced to 1 year in prison.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:31 am to Bronc
Animus risu novatur
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:39 am to Olderthandirt
Everything in that article either pulls directly from the WBRZ reporting or this recent follow up interview directly with Crysta.
In most cases I would never accept Daily Mail as a primary source, just like I wouldn't with most right-wing outlets. But in this case, you'd have to make the case that Daily Mail fabricated the most recent interview, as that's the only "new" reporting they are presenting, which, seems pointless when a story in Ponchatoula, LA is not going to be worth that effort to fabricate.
I also feel like you are bordering on motivated reasoning with how you are approaching this and interpreting things, and it would seem cause you have some personal stakes involved. Now seemingly going the ad hominem route.
In most cases I would never accept Daily Mail as a primary source, just like I wouldn't with most right-wing outlets. But in this case, you'd have to make the case that Daily Mail fabricated the most recent interview, as that's the only "new" reporting they are presenting, which, seems pointless when a story in Ponchatoula, LA is not going to be worth that effort to fabricate.
I also feel like you are bordering on motivated reasoning with how you are approaching this and interpreting things, and it would seem cause you have some personal stakes involved. Now seemingly going the ad hominem route.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 11:44 am
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:43 am to Bronc
Hic manebimus optime!
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:45 am to SPEEDY
Perfect story to show outsiders to explain how Louisiana works.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:49 am to Olderthandirt
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the accuser is an angel who is not adding accusation after accusation in each successive interview to serve her own ends rather than those of her child.
Again, can you provide evidence of this?
So far what you have stated was either untrue or unsubstantiated by the evidence you provided(implying the reports prove Colleen was at John's the night in question, when they do no such thing), or you have jumped to insidious conclusions based on easily explainable discrepancies like Crysta stating John was aware of the pregnancy, which can be explained simply by her friend mentioning at some point in time that John commented to her brother or asked about the pregnancy to a mutual friend. You have also inferred that she may have been with multiple partners and that somehow makes her morally depraved. Which, is a common double standard but doesn't make her a monster.
If it comes out she is, or you have some evidence to that effect, please provide it.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 11:50 am
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:54 am to Olderthandirt
quote:The report says he knew about the pregnancy; the interview says he learned about his paternity after 5 years. There's no conflict between those statements.
In her interview she claims he did not know about the pregancy for five years. In her police claims she states he knew immediately.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:07 pm to Bronc
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Bronc
Or
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:08 pm to Bronc
Latest WBRZ story should put a lot of questioning the validity of the Daily Mail story to rest:
WBRZ
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In January 2021, the child’s school counselor notified DCFS as a mandatory reporter that the child alleged Barnes physically and mentally abused her. Abelseth requested that Barnes custody be limited. Judge Cashe denied that motion.
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It’s also alleged that Barnes drugged and sexually assaulted his daughter on Feb. 21, 2022 and Feb. 22, 2022. “She was transported to New Orleans where she was evaluated and the doctor confirmed that there was evidence of forced entry congruent with sexual assault,” the document reads.
WBRZ
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:11 pm to WildManGoose
How are you interpreting “he knew about the pregnancy immediately”? Like he knew that night when he didn’t pull out and let it soak or he knew as soon as she knew she was pregnant.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:14 pm to lildaddy86
quote:Where are you getting the word "immediately"? I was commenting on her statement where she said, "John Barnes knew about the pregnancy, and said nothing to me about it."
How are you interpreting “he knew about the pregnancy immediately”?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:19 pm to WildManGoose
The more I read the more sure I am that neither parent should have had custody.
I AM EDITING THIS BECAUSE I LINKED THE COURT DOCS> I DELETED BECAUSE I NOTED THEY INCLUDED THE MINOR'S NAME.
I AM EDITING THIS BECAUSE I LINKED THE COURT DOCS> I DELETED BECAUSE I NOTED THEY INCLUDED THE MINOR'S NAME.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:21 pm to WildManGoose
I apologize. I misread and the word immediately is not in her statement. My comment wasn’t directed to you, just a general comment.
There’s a lot of missing info from her statement regarding that, she goes from the rape occurred, to he knew about it and said nothing, to 5 years later.
There’s a lot of missing info from her statement regarding that, she goes from the rape occurred, to he knew about it and said nothing, to 5 years later.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:30 pm to Cymry Teigr
Also incredibly important, cause one of the BAW excuses to defend Predator John was that this rape claim was about money:
The claim was clearly made when Crysta still had sole custody, and once joint custody did happen, Crysta apparently is also not the deadbeat some baws wanted to assume since she was the one making payments. Meaning she made more income.
...This is also fricking rich
So medical examiner concludes signs of forced entry, daughter maintains abuse happened and is still happening.
Sherriff's office refuses to investigate.
Barnes use that lack of action to claim the allegations must be false. Judge decides to grant full custody.
Rotten fricking situation.
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In July 2015, Crysta filed a police report for the 2005 rape that led to her daughter’s birth with the Tangipahoa Parish Sheriffs Office.
quote:
In August 2015, Judge Jeffrey Cashe was assigned the case.
Six months after Cashe took over the case, a split-custody agreement was reached
The claim was clearly made when Crysta still had sole custody, and once joint custody did happen, Crysta apparently is also not the deadbeat some baws wanted to assume since she was the one making payments. Meaning she made more income.
...This is also fricking rich
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“She was transported to New Orleans where she was evaluated and the doctor confirmed that there was evidence of forced entry congruent with sexual assault,” the document reads.
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On March 18, 2022, Judge Cashe dismisses all of Abelseth’s claims saying all criminal charges have not been accepted and the evidence does not support the allegations made by the daughter.
Court records were not clear on what evidence led the judge to make his decision. An abuse advocate for Abelseth tells WBRZ the Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's Office has not cooperated with the family over the location of the daughter's rape kit. The sheriff's office, once again, did not respond to requests for comment Thursday.
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By March 21, 2022, Barnes files for full custody claiming Abelseth provided the daughter with another phone. Barnes alleged because the Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff's Office and DCFS took no action, the allegations made by his daughter were false.
That same day, Judge Cashe granted Barnes sole custody.
Additional documents filed show the daughter continues to maintain her dad abuses her.
So medical examiner concludes signs of forced entry, daughter maintains abuse happened and is still happening.
Sherriff's office refuses to investigate.
Barnes use that lack of action to claim the allegations must be false. Judge decides to grant full custody.
Rotten fricking situation.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:33 pm to lildaddy86
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she goes from the rape occurred, to he knew about it and said nothing, to 5 years later.
What are you talking about?
All that is on record is that she believed John was aware of her pregnancy and then that he came seeking custody years later.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:39 pm to Bronc
So… where’s the rape kit?
And if it is conveniently lost by TPSO, does that mean they are required to accept the findings of the facility in NO which investigates child sexual abuse?
And if it is conveniently lost by TPSO, does that mean they are required to accept the findings of the facility in NO which investigates child sexual abuse?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:42 pm to teke184
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So… where’s the rape kit?
And if it is conveniently lost by TPSO,
Yes, this is definitely fishy.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:17 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Ponchatoula Pub
What's the relationship between John Barnes and the Barnes girl that used to own this place?
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 1:19 pm
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