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re: Talked to my PCP about COVID breakthrough cases
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:54 am to rocket31
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:54 am to rocket31
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with my friends/acquaintances its about 50% at the moment
That’s an unfortunate coincidence for you it’s still in the 70-80% range…..well higher efficacy than the yearly flu shot.
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:56 am to jbraua
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19 of every 20 likely won’t.
Didn't a plane full of Democrats fly to D.C., all vaccinated, and 4 caught the Covid? Then they spread the virus and shortly officials said they will not disclose anymore information on that matter? Probably because more of them caught the Covid? Didn't the VP have a "routine" checkup shortly after on a Sunday?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:56 am to LSU316
yea possibly just coincidental but too early to call anything decisive imo
all of us had mild symptoms and recovered quickly fwiw
all of us had mild symptoms and recovered quickly fwiw
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:57 am to TexasTiger08
Hell yes, all of this^^
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:58 am to jbraua
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But again don’t listen to me; ask your MD what’s best for you.
Something you truly don’t hear from billboards , the news , or politicians…talk to your doctor.
Not very likely your doctor would say to not get it but we full jumped into the “get the jab” in drive thru or door to door scenarios by people you don’t know. Wild if you think about it.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:58 am to jbraua
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My point is this: if you’re on the fence about the vaccine
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Talk to your primary care physician
I seriously never would have thought about discussing a medical decision with my doctor. You may have saved me.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:02 am to OceanMan
Y’all are being smartasses but there are lots of people actually buying horse medicine because of stuff they read on the internet.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:05 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:I know that feel bro.
I never met a doctor I could trust. And I would honestly prefer an early death than ever having to deal with one again.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:05 am to jbraua
The bottom line is that the vaccine is more likely than not safe. Can anyone say that with 100% certainty? Of course not. But we also have only roughly 8 months of data upon which to judge it and it is a vaccine unlike any at least since 1976 in that it is was developed in an extremely quick time frame and is not FDA approved. Still, it is likely safe and I am glad it is available for people who wish to take it.
But on the flip side we have now (in the US at least) been dealing with covid DOMINATING every aspect of society for nearly 20 months. What we know is that (a) treatment of the virus hasn't overwhelmed our healthcare system and (b) the death rate is extremely low (not 0%, of course).
So why is simply having the vaccine readily available for (almost) ANYONE who wants to take it not enough? Why does there have to be a CONSTANT push to get the vaccine to the point of entities essentially mandating it? Frankly, that, more than "disinformation" is causing people to resist. When you CONSTANTLY brow-beat people with "virtuous" pontifications a normal reaction is to resist. It has sadly become an "us vs. them" mentality (which is EXACTLY what the media and politicians want it to be)
The OP has performed his OWN individual risk assessment and determined for himself that the risk of potential serious complications from the virus outweighs the risk of potential risk of adverse effects from the vaccine. And that is completely reasonable. Others may have a different individual risk assessment. And that is also reasonable. Why can't it simply be left at that? The reason is simple. Because BOTH sides feel they are 100% right and that others MUST agree with their position.
But on the flip side we have now (in the US at least) been dealing with covid DOMINATING every aspect of society for nearly 20 months. What we know is that (a) treatment of the virus hasn't overwhelmed our healthcare system and (b) the death rate is extremely low (not 0%, of course).
So why is simply having the vaccine readily available for (almost) ANYONE who wants to take it not enough? Why does there have to be a CONSTANT push to get the vaccine to the point of entities essentially mandating it? Frankly, that, more than "disinformation" is causing people to resist. When you CONSTANTLY brow-beat people with "virtuous" pontifications a normal reaction is to resist. It has sadly become an "us vs. them" mentality (which is EXACTLY what the media and politicians want it to be)
The OP has performed his OWN individual risk assessment and determined for himself that the risk of potential serious complications from the virus outweighs the risk of potential risk of adverse effects from the vaccine. And that is completely reasonable. Others may have a different individual risk assessment. And that is also reasonable. Why can't it simply be left at that? The reason is simple. Because BOTH sides feel they are 100% right and that others MUST agree with their position.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:06 am to hendersonshands
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Y’all are being smartasses but there are lots of people actually buying horse medicine because of stuff they read on the internet.
I know a number of people who got a prescription for the people version and took it at the early symptom phase of Covid and had an overall extremely mild case of it. I guess that could be coincidental but no matter what it’s really low risk and at a minimum you won’t have heart worms if you did before.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:07 am to jbraua
Most people have a better chance of getting shot on stage in Colfax LA than they do succumbing to Covid
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:10 am to jbraua
Does everybody forget that this thing had a 97 percent survivability rate even without a vaccine?
frick China and the commie dems for doing this to us.
frick China and the commie dems for doing this to us.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:11 am to LEASTBAY
People… do try to pressure people to quit smoking. For like 40 years now. And indoor smoking bans because something something I shouldn’t have to breathe the polluted air coming out of your lungs.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:12 am to hendersonshands
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Y’all are being smartasses but there are lots of people actually buying horse medicine because of stuff they read on the internet.
Some may but most aren't and you know that. You can get an actual script for it if you go to the right doctor.
My grandpa owned a cattle ranch and I was around Ivermectin growing up. I never used it on myself but I know several ranchers that have self-medicated with it well before Covid was even a thought.
Did you know it is on the list of essentials medications by the WHO and side effects from it are even rarer than the vaccine so far?
There are a lot of OTC drugs made for animals that are safe for humans and some that are even the same as the prescription form like Fix mox for example. Amazon quit carrying fish mox because they found out people were using it in lieu of penicillin.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:13 am to CamdenTiger
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All our covid patients and deaths for the last 3 weeks have all been vaccinated.
Who is "our"?
Do you work in a nursing home? Not sure if breakthrough cases are higher in the elderly, since their immune systems are often less active than younger adults.
Do you work with the immunocompromised?
Don't know who, if any, in that subset would get the vaccine and I would expect it to be less effective in any that may.
Or is "our:" the general public, in which case you are woefully uninformed.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:15 am to hendersonshands
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Y’all are being smartasses but there are lots of people actually buying horse medicine because of stuff they read on the internet.
Oftentimes you can get better medical advice from the internet than a visit to the doctor. You know how much you are paying for the internet advice too.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:17 am to Prominentwon
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Then why isn’t the outrage directed at the media instead of healthcare workers/doctors?
I agree that the media should shoulder the blame for the divide over these issues.
As for the Healthcare workers... I haven't seen them really be blamed or have outrage towards them. At least not on a large scale. Just some posts on social media when some of them try and get on a soapbox. As with anything I think you have a vocal minority that ruins the look for the rest of them. On my Facebook feed this week I've had Healthcare professionals link articles to why you shouldn't do your own research and then made fun of people who do in the comments, blame the spike on unvaccinated people who lied and went maskless 4 months ago, and someone say if you don't get vaccinated and you come down sick to stay home and not go to the er and ask for life saving medicine. All different people.
If youre seeing outrage directed at Healthcare workers, another way to think of it is maybe because we hold them up on a higher pedestal than the media. And when their human side shows - when they complain, blanketly criticize large groups of people, when they provide wrong information... I guess the backlash is greater than for the ones in the media that we are used to doing those things. I dont expect a doctor to tell his patients not to look into things for themselves and to blindly follow them. I do expect that from the media.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:17 am to jbraua
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if you’re on the fence about the vaccine don’t take my word or your friends word for it. Talk to your primary care physician or a doctor you know and can trust.
i did.
both me PCP and my Cardiologist.
neither suggested i take the shot.
(neither suggested i avoid it either).
In fact my PCP said for my age group, in decent shape, and even with my heart condition (hereditary, i’m not a fatty), the shot is not a necessity.
And that my odds of catching it and then severe illness and hospitalization are roughly equal with or without it.
so no offense to you, or anyone else screaming that i get the jab, i’m going with what the feller i pay to keep me alive says.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:29 am to jbraua
I agree with everything you said. Some people would rather believe someone who probably cheated in all their science classes in high school. Lolol
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:34 am to Prominentwon
He is the one who is misinformed.
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