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Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:08 am to truth87
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:11 am to truth87
9/10 troll post man, selling it a bit much now though
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:16 am to Rebel
quote:I am interested in this interpretation
The CSA very legally and with due process seceded from the USA.
There is nothing in the Constitution that allows for secession and they didnt get it amended, so...
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:34 pm to truth87
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Taking A Knee
frick that.
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The Confederacy
frick that as well.
There. We're done here.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:49 pm to truth87
They fought for states rights
Different time back then and different concept
In that era statehood was more common. For instance people introduced themselves as a Virginian or Carolinian.
Not too mention unfair taxation especially since the south relied on agriculture and was primarily the only reason slavery and share cropping existed
Different time back then and different concept
In that era statehood was more common. For instance people introduced themselves as a Virginian or Carolinian.
Not too mention unfair taxation especially since the south relied on agriculture and was primarily the only reason slavery and share cropping existed
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:51 pm to truth87
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keep slavery and the newly elected U.S. President (Lincoln) didn't.
If the north fought to end slavery, why was slavery legal in the north after it had been abolished by Lincoln in the south?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:14 pm to truth87
Your education was short lived in guessing.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:18 pm to truth87
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someone exercising their protected CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to take a knee during the anthem
Your right to kneel doesn't exist in the workplace (unless you work for the government), if your employer tells you that you that you can't kneel. For NFL players, the games, are the workplace.
The Constitution only protects your right to kneel from government intrusion.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:20 pm to truth87
Who let Strongsafety get an alter?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:22 pm to truth87
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CONFEDERACY FOUGHT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
So did the Indians, Mexicans and Black Panthers.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:46 pm to beerJeep
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If the north fought to end slavery, why was slavery legal in the north after it had been abolished by Lincoln in the south?
Largely a political move for the few pro-slave states that did not secede. Above all, Lincoln was a politician.
Period documents and speeches show the influence slavery had on the war.
Here is the text of Lincoln's second inaugural address, with the part addressing slavery in bold:
quote:.
Fellow–Countrymen: AT this second appearing to take the oath of the Presidential office there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement somewhat in detail of a course to be pursued seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention and engrosses the energies of the nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends, is as well known to the public as to myself, and it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured. On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came. One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:56 pm to Rouge
Thank jesus, for YOU will always be 14 and post your 14 yr. old opinions...LOL
Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:00 am to crazyLSUstudent
When you wake up from your illusion, you’ll recognize what my argument was
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I’m not arguing against the top 1% (or politicians) fighting for slavery. They do not reflect the views of the majority of our family members who were fighting on the ground. Like I said it was only the top 1% who owned slaves.
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I’m not arguing against the top 1% (or politicians) fighting for slavery. They do not reflect the views of the majority of our family members who were fighting on the ground. Like I said it was only the top 1% who owned slaves.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:08 am to crazyLSUstudent
Of course the North wants to perpetuate that this was a Holy War for them but it just simply does not add up when you look at the other issues at hand. The North (and especially Lincoln) did not care that much about slavery until they were ready to go to war, before that it was taxing the shite out of the south. Not to mention, I find it suspicious that the Vatican showed support to the confederacy rather than Lincoln and his “Holy War” cause to end slavery. When you read the letters and politics at the time it’s amazing how red pilled you will get because you realize American textbooks have been blue pilling you to think that everyone in the south at that time owned a slave and was hell bent on keeping them. Yea alright...that’s why Lee let his free at the start of the war and why his slave wrote his ulugy about his master saying how good of a caretaker he was...???
Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:15 am to NYCAuburn
quote:
I am interested in this interpretation
same here.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 7:24 am to truth87
I find it sad that people are taking a knee before the flag, the same people that benefited most from the Civil War. I wonder what the soldiers that died in battle in that conflict carrying that flag, would think of the people they were trying to save spitting on their sacrifice. Unbelievable
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