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re: Taking a felon out to a gun range
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:08 pm to JasonDBlaha
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:08 pm to JasonDBlaha
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Is it worth the risk of being associated with aiding a felon in possessing a firearm?
Interesting question and your getting some interesting responses.
One thing not mentioned is that it is also a federal crime for a felon in possession of a firearm.
This law is being litigated in 2 separate Federal circuits. The St Louis based 8th circuit has ruled it constitutional while the Philadelphia based 3rd circuit has ruled it unconstitutional. A Petition for Writ of Certiorari has been filed with the US Supreme Court. Because of the circuit split, the writ is like to be granted and the US Supreme Court will hear the case.
This issue has not been litigated in the 5th circuit, which includes Texas. Considering how the 5th Circuit ruled in the Rahimi case that individuals under a domestic restraining order does not lose his 2nd Amendment rights( case has been argued and is awaiting a decision from the US Supreme court,) I suspect the 5th circuit would rule the felon in possession of a firearm to be unconstitutional.
Good Luck
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:15 pm to SG_Geaux
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Jesus this whole thread is dumb
Thank you. Possession of a firearm =\= handling of a firearm being used in a lawful manner at a gun range.
If that was the case, I couldn’t use my friend’s M-60 or M-249 machine gun at the range because the tax stamps for those are sure as hell not in my name.
I can’t take those weapons and go gallivanting off with them without him. Unless they were owned by a trust that I was a member of. They are not, so I cannot possess them.
But he is surely within legal bounds to hand me the weapon, stand there with me, and allow me to operate them.
Now, devil’s advocate- if y’all somehow happened to kill someone, blow something up, and generally cause the police to be involved- you can damn sure expect that once they find out your pal has a felony conviction, the good ol DA will absolutely try to tack on a gun possession charge to him. At a minimum, I would think the local police would arrest him. So, plenty legal BS that no one wants to screw with.
If your pal is such a good boy, why wouldn’t he say- “Hey man, I can’t play with guns anymore- so y’all go shoot, and I’ll stay back at the house, or, I’ll come with y’all but won’t shoot”
If I was the owner in that case, I would say- screw it man, no one is coming out here and I don’t care if they do.
FYI- I have property with a private range and once- a loooong loooong time ago- waaaaaay past the statute of limitations and the offender is deceased now- we were making such a mini Fallujah, a neighbor called the police…neighbor is a relative term here…we are talking about half a mile away and across a bayou.
Police come out, try- rather unsuccessfully- to sneak up on us- it was very comical- they got their cruiser stuck and then tried to hoof it through unknown woods- it was really silly. We see them approaching- from behind the backstop- I start waving so they know we see them- best policy with a bunch of folks with guns is to show you mean no harm. They wave back and approach us. Offender was in possession of a very illegal suppressor which he had smuggled in from South Africa. When the police determined we were there lawfully, they were quite thankful in how we politely and professionally behaved- and we brought them back to the stuck cruiser.
In other words, don’t start no shite, won’t be no shite.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:36 pm to JasonDBlaha
No pics of him with a firearm in his hands. They wind up on social media and become a problem.
It seems illegals now days can have firearms.
It seems illegals now days can have firearms.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:42 pm to JasonDBlaha
No!
Yes, it's stupid for him losing his gun rights, but you don't want to potentially foul something up.
If something should go wrong, you don't want to compromise your friend in Texas.
Yes, it's stupid for him losing his gun rights, but you don't want to potentially foul something up.
If something should go wrong, you don't want to compromise your friend in Texas.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:46 pm to JasonDBlaha
I wouldn’t say anything. If something happens, the owner can say he had no idea and it’s all on the dude. If you tell him, then you are actually putting a burden on the owner. 99.999999999999999% nothing would ever happen anyway, right?
ETA: just saw that he’s still on probation. That changes the equation drastically.
ETA: just saw that he’s still on probation. That changes the equation drastically.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:46 pm to 4x4tiger
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Do you want to end up like Chris Kyle?
Was going to say—I hope homie doesn’t have some unresolved mental issues you aren’t aware of that could put you at physical risk. frick his legal status.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:46 pm to JasonDBlaha
Well then your friend is a fricking retard for willing to risk jail time over something stupid like going to the range
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:50 pm to JasonDBlaha
The land owner should be made aware of this. If he is letting people use his gun range at least respect him enough to inform him of any situation that could somehow put him in the middle of something he shouldn't be. Don't be an immature prick.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:40 am to JasonDBlaha
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He served 5 years and got out in 2017. His probation isn’t up until November of this year. The gathering is planned to occur in 2 weeks
Is your buddy just stupid? Why would he risk going back to jail (by violating his probation), simply to have some fun target shooting.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:57 am to JasonDBlaha
Why would you not expect your Felon dindu buddy to be the one who lays his cards on the table with the landowner?
Or at the very least, if he prefers not to divulge his past, but truly wants to correct his life, why does he not just decline problematic invites 'til his probation expires/legal situation improves?
Or at the very least, if he prefers not to divulge his past, but truly wants to correct his life, why does he not just decline problematic invites 'til his probation expires/legal situation improves?
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:04 am to lsu777
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Well then your friend is a fricking retard for willing to risk jail time over something stupid like going to the range
Dude has less than 8 months and he's free again, but God knows that gun range is calling his name!
People are such morans.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 12:52 pm to mmonro3
quote:Gotcha.
83 pounds, five ounces…give or take!
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