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re: Study Finds American Millennials To Be Some Of The World's Least Skilled People

Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:41 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:41 am to
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What you don't do is sit on your mom's couch wasting your day getting stoned and playing Grand Theft Auto on the XBox waiting for that dream job to just be handed to you


You mad, brah?

Just because some dbags in my generation as well as people in yours elected Obummer...don't be mad at hard working people like myself..every generation talks jive about the other
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 9:42 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111521 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:43 am to
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Change brake pads
Change a tire
Change my own oil
Weld
Change an outlet, light fixture, etc
Find a stud
I can do all that too as a millennial. You know why we can? Because we had a great Dad who showed us how to do it. For any 25 year old man that can't do this, look no further than his father to blame.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 9:44 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:45 am to
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ENTRY LEVEL JOB


lol

You are out of touch.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:45 am to
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It's nice to be able to come to a site like this and see what I have to look forward to in my golden years: impotently complaining about youths and placing all of societies ills on their heads.


On the contrary. I thank God for millenials every day. They ensure that I will never have to worry about the next generation taking my job away. They also manage to make slacker-arse Gen X workers look like captains of industry.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:46 am to
I would bet there are more 25 year old men that cant anything on that list today then there was 15 years ago.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53564 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:47 am to
While my dad did teach me a lot of that, I also learned a lot from my sisters boyfriends through the years as well.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73686 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:48 am to
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You mad, brah?

Just because some dbags in my generation as well as people in yours elected Obummer...don't be mad at hard working people like myself..every generation talks jive about the other


Not in the least. I'm set in my career and even for my retirement. I'm just trying to help some of those of this younger generation by telling them things they should have been told by their parents before they were out of junior high. As some on here have already pointed out, these Millennials, like all generations before them, are a product of the generation that raised them. And the sad truth is there has been a massive failure of parenting over the past 20-30 years. By in large this generation was brought up with shoddy parenting that left it to the schools to teach these kids everything about life. School is only one part of the equation of preparing a kid to go out in the world. You can take a kid and send him to the best private schools and then the best universities in the nation and if that kid's parents did not teach that kid the important life lessons that you cannot get from a school, then that kid's parents have failed them in a big way and set them up for a lifetime of failure.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111521 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:49 am to
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I would bet there are more 25 year old men that cant anything on that list today then there was 15 years ago.
And why do you think that is? It is because so many of my friends dads let them sit on their arse at 10 years old and watch Saturday morning cartoons. My father, woke me up and I was working on the car or I'm his shed with him. Do yall honestly beleive it is not the parents that mold a generation?
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 9:50 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73686 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:51 am to
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lol

You are out of touch.




Out of touch? I've worked for one of the biggest corporations in the world for over 20 years. And one of the big issues we deal with daily is the struggle to find enough young people who are (1) willing to accept entry level positions and then (2) perform in those positions and advance.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:52 am to
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They ensure that I will never have to worry about the next generation taking my job away.



So true..I chuckle at younger guys that try and compete with me and what I do. They only last a few months then they're back in the unemployment line. Little do they know, nowadays it's more about relationships, networking and who you know, rather then what you think you know.

Get your foot in the door, meet new people and work your way up....good things will fall into place.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46517 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:52 am to
God damn, old farts love to complain about the "younger" generation.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38669 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:52 am to
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Well yeah, they kinda do. Want to get a job managing a big company. Well go accept an ENTRY LEVEL JOB (do you know what that is?) at that company and you work your way up from there. For example, you want to be a project engineer specializing in power generation with a caterpillar dealer? They make about 100k a year BTW. Well you start out by going to that Cat dealer and accept an entry level job like shipping clerk or mechanic trainee. They start at about $20K - $25K a year or so I believe. From there you bide your time and wait for your opportunity. What you don't do is sit on your mom's couch wasting your day getting stoned and playing Grand Theft Auto on the XBox waiting for that dream job to just be handed to you.

Do you realize how unrealistic it is to start at 20-25k with probably 50k in student debt out of college?

Granted, college isn't the only way to get that, and I'm assuming your example accounts for that (that this example person shouldn't go to college and head to Cat right out of of high school. That's realistic).


The problem, and what was touched on earlier is that kids are being built up in a very specific. They are ingrained with the idea of college = job (and a well paying one at that), right out of college. We're also telling them that this is the ONLY way to go about it. The entire movement of political education endeavors is still around "College Completion," look it up. Everything we do is about putting a ton of people into college and getting results on the back end. Simple economics will tell you this won't work. We're just creating excess. But, that isn't PC to say. And who' doing this? Boomers.

Now I don't dislike boomers, they are a fine generation that is just getting older and grumpier, but their constant need to badger millenials and label them lazy or unskilled is laughable.

Anyways, there is a ton of misunderstanding in this thread when it comes to the Boomer role in all of this, the psychology of kids these days and who is at fault. And there is also a fair amount of ignorance when it comes to who Millenials are.

Plus, many dogging millenials are just this:



And this:



Stop being so stereotypical and understand the current situation.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:53 am to
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Out of touch? I've worked for one of the biggest corporations in the world for over 20 years. And one of the big issues we deal with daily is the struggle to find enough young people who are (1) willing to accept entry level positions and then (2) perform in those positions and advance.


When every entry level job requires 2-3 years experience, it is hard to get into the system to work your way up.

The unpaid internship is the new entry level job. For most people coming out of college, an unpaid job is unrealistic.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:53 am to
why are you arguing with me? I agree with you
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20356 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:53 am to
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Also, you should recognize the irony in this situation. You have taken time out of your workday to bitch about your nephew on the internet.


At 45, I have finished one career and am working again - fortunately, I can do that and still be more than productive. Also, I am raising a five and three year old. But, think what you will...
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:54 am to
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I've worked for one of the biggest corporations in the world for over 20 years


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Darth_Vader



I knew you were a Wal Mart greeter
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:54 am to
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I'm just trying to help some of those of this younger generation by telling them things they should have been told by their parents before they were out of junior high.


I think you should reflect on the bigger picture if you want people to listen to you. It looks like this:

1) The economic situation millennials inherited is beyond fricked up
2) The old rules for careers no longer apply
3) A lot of millennials simply refuse to play by those old rules, preferring to develop their own
4) This makes older individuals very uncomfortable
5) So they complain about it in the news and on the internet

Do you know how stale your "advice" sounds? It is terribly trite, and worse, not even true.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:54 am to
I find the millenials are pretty bad at anything of note.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:55 am to
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At 45, I have finished one career and am working again - fortunately, I can do that and still be more than productive. Also, I am raising a five and three year old. But, think what you will...


I don't need your life story. I just asked to you to consider the situation. I personally hope your nephew gets the job he wants. Good luck to him and your entire family. I mean that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111521 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:56 am to
Not arguing. Just using your quote to further a point
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