re: Study: Vehicles most likely to reach 200K miles

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"Awesome engineering, but no durability"


its more about cost of repair and parts.

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You bring up a very salient point regarding the entire subject.

Expensive luxury vehicles are expensive to repair and often get crushed or parted out when a "lower line" car would be repaired because parts are dirt cheap and more mechanics closer to "shade tree" level can work on them and have the tools to do so. The German cans worth keeping running (Porsche, BMW M cars etc) tend to hang around.

This also speaks to the durability of trucks. People are a lot more likely to keep a pickup running when it has a lot of road and field scars than a car. Often they are kept as third vehicles.

The study is skewed because it covers not just actual durability of the vehicle but the cost to keep it running. Both are important if you want 500k BUT one can't discount the engineering of German cars because of this. In the case of cars German engineers often prioritize weight/performance more than long-term maintenance costs.

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Go drive an M3 circa 2005, with a stick.

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The E46 may be my favorite M car. I bought every generation of the M3 until they went turbo and I went pack to Pcars. I still have a 04 E46 but it is mainly a track car now. That said an E36 with the Euro engine would probably be my favorite since it had the best balance and steering feel but the 240hp of the US version seems sluggish in today's world.

With the right oil a E46 can hot lap all day but the Vanos system that gave it the massive specific output is a weak spot and can cost a fortune unless you can wrench it yourself.

Why would I want to drive a car 200K miles? I want a new car well before it gets close. I drive about 10K miles a year and I'm not keeping a car 20 years

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I drive about 10K miles a year and I'm not keeping a car 20 years

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I drive about 8k. I'm 40 so that would mean maybe 2 more vehicles in my lifetime

Just traded in Toyota Corolla to Price Leblanc. 2008 model. Had 283k miles.

Had a 1994 Toyota Tercel. Lasted 10 years. 245k miles when clutch went out on it.

Toyota RAV4 should have been on the list. I’ve treated that thing like I truck and it’s still going strong at 265k

My 4-runner has 234,000 and still going strong.

F-150 checking in. 297k.

Dumb list.

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iSeeCars.com analyzed over 13.5 million used cars sold in 2017 from model years 1981 through 2017. Models that were not in production as of the 2017 model year, heavy duty-vehicles, and models with fewer than 10,000 cars sold were excluded from further analysis. For each model, the percentage of the number of cars with at least 200,000 miles was calculated.

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This methodology excludes things like the Land Cruiser and is skewed by the total sales of models without that many years miles on them.

A better way to do it is to measure how many vehicles of a particular model are still in service after 200k miles.