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re: Student Loan Payment Pause and Moratorium on Evictions Extended

Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:40 am to
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4144 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:40 am to
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Government needs to get out of the way and let the free market decide.


that includes ending ubiquitous testing of healthy people and fear mongering through the media.

the idea that just stopping lockdowns etc is the only government function in this technofascist world is part of the problem
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
2250 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:43 am to
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Executive orders are signed by new president to maintain protections from economic hardships caused by government over reaction to the Covid-19 pandemic



FIFY
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:43 am to
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I have been paying mine this entire time, but I might have to rethink that now. Not sure exactly what the best strategy is.
People, the housing moratorium is a moratorium on evictions and foreclosures, not a moratorium on having to pay. You are still accruing arrears every month you don't pay and the instant the moratorium is lifted, you'll almost certainly get hit with a demand letter for, at a minimum, the back rent/mortgage payments and possibly a demand letter for payment of the mortgage/remainder of the lease in full. In this state, that means you'll be homeless within a month or so if you can't stroke the check for the demand payment and you'll have that giant failure to pay on your credit history meaning the next lender/lessor that you walk up to is going to be more likely to tell you to get fricked and go try down the street at the low-rent apartments, limiting your housing options to El Cid.

For now, I guess. The commies in charge could just try to unilaterally void all lease and purchase contracts.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:58 am
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38293 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:44 am to
Man what a kick in the dick for people who refinanced

Mother frick !!!!
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4144 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:50 am to
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FIFY


i mean. i don't see the government as anything but an UNnecessary evil, so any reaction is an overreaction that could have been better handled by individual decisions.

anything the government does must be overcome on TOP of what it was trying to fix in the first place.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11132 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:57 am to
I’m not going to refinance until a republican is back in office

I did the 25 year plan and pay extra. Now its all going to principal.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:00 am to
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People, the housing moratorium is a moratorium on evictions and foreclosures, not a moratorium on having to pay. You are still accruing arrears every month you don't pay and the instant the moratorium is lifted, you'll almost certainly get hit with a demand letter for, at a minimum, the back rent/mortgage payments and possibly a demand letter for payment of the mortgage/remainder of the lease in full.


You think they won't at least attempt to make that illegal?


"No landlord or lender may attempt to collect any rent or mortgage payments not paid during the moratorium on evictions and foreclosures."
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48348 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:06 am to
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The federal eviction moratorium will be extended to March 31, 2021. Mr. Biden is also asking the Department of Housing and Urban Development to consider extending the foreclosure moratorium and continuing forbearance applications for federally guaranteed mortgages.

As of early January, an estimated 2.7 million mortgages are in forbearance according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.


This is terrifying. IMO, this is being set up for the govt to come in and buy cheap foreclosures so they can set up more govt housing everywhere. It is absolutely fricked up what the govt is doing to landlords. A lot of private landlords are not rich. They are breaking even and trying to pay off the mortgages of their rental properties while they're working so they have retirement income.

This is going to make 2008 look like a cakewalk.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:22 am to
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People, the housing moratorium is a moratorium on evictions and foreclosures, not a moratorium on having to pay.

We were talking about student loans.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:27 am to
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We were talking about student loans.
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Student Loan Payment Pause and Moratorium on Evictions Extended

That's the part I was responding to.

I just picked your post, unfortunately, and didn't realize you were talking about the loan part.

I'm gonna own that one.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:31 am
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13416 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:30 am to
Are people with poor credit already just not paying rent anymore? No repercussions?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:32 am to
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Are people with poor credit already just not paying rent anymore? No repercussions?

Oh, sure, that hasn't changed.

The problem is that there are about to be a lot more people that are going to have poor credit.

EL CID! Or maybe a nice cottage on Jennifer Jean.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37010 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:39 am to
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I'm enjoying the principal-only payments on my student loans right now. I hope he extends it again
IMO, this is the only "fair" answer to the current student loan problem. Just waive interest, but principle must be paid back. As a country we shouldn't be trying to make money off of people who are trying to better their lives.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17353 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:42 am to
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IMO, this is the only "fair" answer to the current student loan problem. Just waive interest, but principle must be paid back. As a country we shouldn't be trying to make money off of people who are trying to better their lives.



I'm okay with that. It's fair and reasonable. I would even be okay with forgiving some loans to first responders (nurses, doctors, etc.) in this "war on Covid".

That makes way more sense than eliminating evictions and screwing over smaller landlords. That just doesn't work.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:46 am to
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Pretty sure that my current project will be shut down and they will lay off hundreds of thousands of people.




"hundreds of thousands"....ok, bud.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138876 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:47 am to
The bubble that's about to burst in this economy is going to make '08 look like a speed bump
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 10:48 am
Posted by JoeNelson
Member since Sep 2019
434 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:49 am to
Dey rich shouldn't have all dem houzes anyway
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37010 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:51 am to
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I'm okay with that. It's fair and reasonable. I would even be okay with forgiving some loans to first responders (nurses, doctors, etc.) in this "war on Covid".
Eh, I'm borderline about that, because at least some of these workers are receiving increased income during this time. Maybe forgive an amount equal to their minimum payment for the duration of this "war on Covid" or something.

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That makes way more sense than eliminating evictions and screwing over smaller landlords. That just doesn't work.
Yeah, this is absurd. This is basically class warfare perpetuated by the government.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40291 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:56 am to
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getting into a discussion with the "landlords do nothing" is one of those mind-numbing experiences that legit melts brain cells

the concept of risk and investment is literally outside of their understanding, as well as historical examples of public housing. of course THAT isn't the type of public housing they're talking about. that wasn't real public housing



It’s what love for landlords is trolling for, just go to Reddit search landlord and you will run across threads that full the biggest morons out there.

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:57 am to
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That makes way more sense than eliminating evictions and screwing over smaller landlords. That just doesn't work.


Did landlords qualify for PPP? I know the money didn't make it to a lot of businesses that qualified, just asking as a general question if landlords are eligible for the program?

There's been an eviction ban since March of '20, so let's not pretend the sky is suddenly falling. That said, government does need to look out for both parties in the case of rentals....if you're enforcing an eviction moratorium, you should also be subsidizing lost income for the property owners. That's just common sense, imo.

Perhaps a rental owner on the board can describe what the government has or hasn't offered since March to help recoup lost income from rentals?
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