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re: Strategically speaking, isn't the Figure-4 Leg Lock a terrible finishing move?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:27 am to WhoDatNC
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:27 am to WhoDatNC
Just to be clear , yes everyone knows it’s fake. From now on if wrestling is brought up in any thread for any reason nobody has to ask the op if they know it’s fake. Everyone knows it’s fake.
I swear in every thread that is wrestling related that question gets asked. I believe everyone knows by now it’s fake. The wwe tells you how they decided who should win in the documentary’s that come on
I swear in every thread that is wrestling related that question gets asked. I believe everyone knows by now it’s fake. The wwe tells you how they decided who should win in the documentary’s that come on
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:34 am to Jack Ruby
Been watching reruns of Mid-South Wrestling again?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:54 am to KiwiHead
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Mid-South Wrestling
On every TV set in rural Mississippi, every Sunday afternoon in the 70s.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:57 am to Mr Personality
It was a lot more than alcoholism.
Pretty sure he has tested more foreign substances than the FDA.
Pretty sure he has tested more foreign substances than the FDA.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:17 am to RB10
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Doesn’t have shite on The People’s Elbow or The Stone Cold Stunner
Or hogan's leg drop of doom
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:19 am to Jack Ruby
First off, if you find yourself in a figure four, you're completely at the mercy of the person who put you in it. They could literally break your lower leg bones if they wanted to.
Second, all of the "high impact" finishers are BS. You mean to tell me a guy has been punching you in the face for 20 minutes, but a spear to the gut is going to knock you out?
The pile driver (not the tombstone, the OG pile driver) was as close of a legit finisher because you could literally break their neck if it wasn't protected.
The "finishers" today are ridiculous. RKO? Did you ever see Samoa Joe just walk away from it? Stunner? Your butt takes a bigger impact than the opponent's chin. Top rope moves? They have to already be unconscious to lay there long enough to happen.
If you manage to get somebody in a figure 4, they can be in legitimate, debilitating pain if you want them to.
Second, all of the "high impact" finishers are BS. You mean to tell me a guy has been punching you in the face for 20 minutes, but a spear to the gut is going to knock you out?
The pile driver (not the tombstone, the OG pile driver) was as close of a legit finisher because you could literally break their neck if it wasn't protected.
The "finishers" today are ridiculous. RKO? Did you ever see Samoa Joe just walk away from it? Stunner? Your butt takes a bigger impact than the opponent's chin. Top rope moves? They have to already be unconscious to lay there long enough to happen.
If you manage to get somebody in a figure 4, they can be in legitimate, debilitating pain if you want them to.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:18 pm to Dawgwithnoname
Never said the Figure 4, when actually applied in real life, was not a semi-real to real leg lock.
But, in the premise of how it was used in Pro Wretsling, especially toward the later half of Flair's career, it was almost always broken or reversed or the guy got to the ropes.
Fact still remains, it has too many weaknesses in a professional wrestling setup vs many other finishers.
But, of course now, none of them mean anything, and guys kick out of finishers at random all the time, so, in essence, they're all worthless now.
But, in the premise of how it was used in Pro Wretsling, especially toward the later half of Flair's career, it was almost always broken or reversed or the guy got to the ropes.
Fact still remains, it has too many weaknesses in a professional wrestling setup vs many other finishers.
But, of course now, none of them mean anything, and guys kick out of finishers at random all the time, so, in essence, they're all worthless now.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:50 pm to FredBear
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Like the Iron Sheik, he was really a champion wrestler from Iran and they say if he had wanted to he could have tied Hulk Hogan into a knot
And so, these two wrestlers met -- each undefeated -- in the gold medal round of the Olympics. The American coach turned to his guy and said, "You're good enough to beat him, but keep out of that Pretzel Hold. No one has ever gotten out of it."
Full of pride and youthful enthusiasm, the American wrestler nods and walks out on the mat to confront the Iranian. The whistle blows, and then SUDDENLY, in two seconds, the American is in the pretzel hold. The coach covers his eyes and hears the count -- 1 - 2 - 3 BANG!
He looks up and the American wrestler has won!!!!
The Coach grabs him. "You were in the pretzel hold! How did you break free?"
"Well," the American says, "he was faster than I could have imagined. BAM! I was in the Pretzel Hold. And as things started to go dark and I knew the end was near, I looked up and saw these TWO BIG HAIRY BALLS. And so I craned my neck as far as I could and I bit those BALLS."
"Oh my god," the Coach cried.
"Yeah," the American said, "you don't know how strong you are until you bite your own balls."
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:56 pm to Jack Ruby
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it was almost always broken or reversed or the guy got to the ropes.
The rope grab was a big weakness. Also, when you have your opponent in a Figure 4, you are blind to anything going on behind you so interference by a manager or tag team partner is a very real threat.
But the biggest risk was just before cinching in the Figure 4. You have your back to your opponent who has a totally free leg. A good kick in the butt from behind can send the guy three the ropes.
Unlike a high impact finishing move, the Figure 4 allowed the crowd to get involved and an opponent who had lost hope can be energized. I’ve seen it in person more than once.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:00 pm to Jack Ruby
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Strategically speaking, isn't the Figure-4 Leg Lock a terrible finishing move? by Jack Ruby
I know right! It’s not near as effective as smoking them like you did Oswald!
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:06 pm to Jack Ruby
The OT should grease themselves up and have a cage match... winner is the new Admin
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:08 pm to Jack Ruby
I prefer that mortal combat one where Scorpion rips his spine out
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:09 pm to Oates Mustache
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wrestling, yes. With Elizabeth Hurley, no.
You can’t just go around injecting Elizabeth Hurley into everything just to make it awesome.
Well I mean, you can though.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:14 pm to Jack Ruby
Idk but it will make you say uncle If done properly.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:14 pm to Jack Ruby
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especially toward the later half of Flair's career, it was almost always broken or reversed or the guy got to the ropes.
Well no shite, he was old and of course not as strong
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:27 pm to Jack Ruby
My brother and I grew up trying those moves on each other. The Figure 4 is not the finishing move I would choose. Piledriver is more effective.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:06 pm to Jack Ruby
Aint got shite on the camel clutch. That's actually painful
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:10 pm to ChestRockwell
you misspelled sharp shooter.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:11 pm to Havoc
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You can’t just go around injecting Elizabeth Hurley into everything just to make it awesome.
Well I mean, you can though.
She's perfect.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:42 pm to Oates Mustache
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She's perfect.
Unicorn status no hesitation.
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