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re: State pauses work on Louisiana's biggest-ever coastal project. 'You just can't afford it.'

Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58005 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:29 pm to
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fricking oyster lease.
thank that fricker Nungesser
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58005 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:30 pm to
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think a smaller freshwater introduction system would be better along with sediment pipelines would help.
and what are your credentials....because the leading minds in this field all came to the current plans..... What do you do?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33627 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:33 pm to
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People treat this project like the solution to all of our costal problems. But it’s nothing more than putting a bandaid on an amputation.

It was never intended to be standalone. It’s supposed to work in concert with the other large diversion (that also won’t happen now) and many other smaller projects.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10827 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 5:36 pm to
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thank that fricker Nungesser


And that fat frick would take a free fishing trip to a superfund site in Jersey if you promised him a limit of trout and a photo shoot.
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
307 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:05 pm to
Nothing good will come of cancelling this project. And at worse - it will cost Louisiana taxpayers in excess of 500 billion dollars that needs to be paid back. Yes - the entities that control the BP money want their money back that they released if the project that they approved the money to be spent on is not done. So - lose/lose for Louisiana. Again. Same old shite.
I can definitely argue the land gain vs other methods but I am looking at the economic impact on the surrounding communities of a 4 year 3 billion dollar construction project that is fully funded by outside entities. That cannot be quantified.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108445 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:07 pm to
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Nothing good will come of cancelling this project. And at worse - it will cost Louisiana taxpayers in excess of 500 billion dollars that needs to be paid back. Yes - the entities that control the BP money want their money back that they released if the project that they approved the money to be spent on is not done. So - lose/lose for Louisiana. Again. Same old shite.
I can definitely argue the land gain vs other methods but I am looking at the economic impact on the surrounding communities of a 4 year 3 billion dollar construction project that is fully funded by outside entities. That cannot be quantified.


Ummm...
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
118155 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:09 pm to
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Saying that the state doesn't have the money is a lie.


Of course its a lie. Its amazing what they will not fund and what they can always find money to do.
Posted by Antib551
Houma, LA
Member since Dec 2018
1271 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:19 pm to
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Climate Central’s (Link) map of what southeastern coastal Louisiana will look like in 2050
Newsflash to them...it already looks like that....literally none of that red is land. Everything above the freshwater line is floating marsh and zero bottom swampland. Negative 10M% that is all open water in 25 years.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
10032 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:36 pm to
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think a smaller freshwater introduction system would be better along with sediment pipelines would help.


and what are your credentials....because the leading minds in this field all came to the current plans..... What do you do?


It really doesn’t matter what I do. I have been living in coastal Louisiana for over 40 years and have seen the changes.

The rules and regulations and myriad of federal regulations have got us into this mess.

The regulations and requirements to do endless studies have killed more projects due to cost and requirements that make them unaffordable. That is what appears to be happening here.

It is people with degrees on the wall that have their hands in the cookie jar that are the first to collect before a single grain of sand or dirt is moved.
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1863 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:37 pm to
Louisiana is so embarrassing. Everyone agrees that the diversion will create tons of land and reverse land loss in the barataria basin, a significant part of our coast but not the only part that needs to be addressed.

The issue is not about money. I’ve followed this closely for years. The issue is the saltwater economy from Fourchon to empire will be severely hurt by a diversion in the upper barataria.

Jeff Landry, like all Lousiana Politicians, is playing both sides and just wants to not cause harm to the fishermen, oyster men, property owners etc who depend on the saltwater. The excuse that it may cost more than expected is pulled from thin air.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 6:39 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39300 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:41 pm to
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I’d be shocked if the money is still there.

It is because LA is not holding it it’s being held in trust that the state does not control
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39300 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:48 pm to
To the extent this is going to cost the state at all… it’s only because we waited so long with typical LA political BS

This project was 100 percent paid for until we started screwing around
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80206 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:51 pm to
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Thread about the future of LA's coast not gonna get more than 2 pages


Well this turned out false.


Really you need to let the river do its thing. But we won’t do that.

Plus there has been multiple threads about this project. So you are just being dishonest while also doing jack shite for the coast.





Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
19364 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 6:54 pm to
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shrimpers and oyster growers in the diversion area would have to move farther out or find another line of work



Unbelievably ignorant and short sighted. Maybe when they are shrimping in Donaldsonville this will stop being an argument.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
16087 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:13 pm to
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They will have studies run until all of the money was used for studies. Anybody familiar with LA has seen this happen a plethora of times.

Except in this case the studies were all wrapped up and work was ready to roll. Then Landry got elected, appointed Gordy Dove over CPRA shut it down.

Stupid thing is that because this is the first official cease work order, the contractors have been being paid to do nothing for the past year and a half.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2176 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:39 pm to
I disagree that creating 25sq/mi land in one small area and in 50 years when we will lose 1500-3000 square miles in 50 years is worth the time, $ and effort
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33627 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:46 pm to
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worth the time, $ and effort

The state wasn’t footing the bill. It will now that Jeff, Dove, and the idiots who run Plaquesmines Parish intervened though. The money already spent will have to be paid back.

The remaining money cannot be reallocated to other things. It’s not the states money. It was federal and BP money for THIS project.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33627 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:50 pm to
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They will have studies run until all of the money was used for studies.

The EIS was done years ago.
Posted by redstickrick
Member since May 2019
388 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:52 pm to
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I’m sick of hearing about the commercial fisherman and oyster man as an excuse not to do diversion projects to rebuild the coast.


Even more weird when you remember they wouldnt be oystering nd fishing there if it was still freshwater like it would be if we never leveed the river
Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
506 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:56 pm to
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want to move forward with construction of a large-scale land bridge in Barataria Basin using dredged sediment to build it.


This is the way. Land bridges have been extremely successful.
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