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State attempts to seize Lenin statue, but fails because it is on private property

Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Chuck Barris
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:02 pm
The statue is in Seattle's Fremont neighborhood.

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This week a group of Republicans has introduced House Bill 2120. It seeks to remove the bronze monument and replace it with another artwork. The measure would set up a statewide committee to determine the new artwork, which would then be subject to a series of public hearings, at least two of would be held east of the Cascade mountains.

The bill cites Lenin’s role in the formation of the Soviet Union, and atrocities committed under the auspices of that government, including the “Red Terror of 1917-1922” and the deportation and genocide of Crimean Chechens and Tatars. Sponsors conclude that Vladimir Lenin “does not meet the standards of being one of our 15 state’s top honorees with a statue display in Seattle.”

The bill caught many in Fremont by surprise. Longtime Fremont businesswoman Suzie Burke, the neighborhood’s largest industrial land owner, was quick to point out that not one of the bill’s sponsors lives in the Seattle area.

“Because if there had been someone from here, I would have called them up and said ‘Why don’t you come down and talk about it?’”

Burke points out that the bronze sculpture is privately owned, and sits on private property. The sculpture was created in 1988 in the former Czechoslovakia; in 1993 a Seattle artist discovered it in a scrap yard and shipped it home. The artwork has been for sale since then, although the owners have declined purchase offers.
*cue the Alanis Morissette gifs*

Posted by Shexter
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:07 pm to
Deface it with confederate flag stuff and the statue will be gone before sundown.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:09 pm to
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This week a group of Republicans has introduced House Bill 2120. It seeks to remove the bronze monument and replace it with another artwork. The measure would set up a statewide committee to determine the new artwork, which would then be subject to a series of public hearings, at least two of would be held east of the Cascade mountains.


Did they seriously spend the time to draft a bill about a specific statue without confirming property ownership? What a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:10 pm to
that’s great
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:12 pm to
I'm surprised it actually doesn't get more support in Seattle. Send it over to Portland, they'll worship it.
Posted by Mr Fusion
The American Dream City
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:13 pm to
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a group of Republicans has introduced House Bill 2120. It seeks to remove the bronze monument
But I thought the libs were the only ones who get offended?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:14 pm to
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The bill caught many in Fremont by surprise. Longtime Fremont businesswoman Suzie Burke, the neighborhood’s largest industrial land owner, was quick to point out that not one of the bill’s sponsors lives in the Seattle area.


I’m pretty sure Russians feel the same way about a fricking statue of Lenin in the US.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 3:15 pm
Posted by NWarty
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:15 pm to
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I'm surprised it actually doesn't get more support in Seattle. Send it over to Portland, they'll worship it.


I've seen the statue quite a bit and whenever it comes up in conversation, everyone just shrugs and says "whatever" and chalks it up to the quirkiness of Fremont. It is a very cool area btw with tons of bars and shops.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 3:15 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30401 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:17 pm to
Harvey Gough used to have a Statue of Lenin at his hamburger place, Goff’s. It had a plaque that read. "America Won!"



Roadside attractions

This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2146 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Deface it with confederate flag stuff and the statue will be gone before sundown.
Go ahead and tell us more about all the CSA statues that have been forcibly removed from private property.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:24 pm to


"I am the Walrus."
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:26 pm to
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Did they seriously spend the time to draft a bill about a specific statue without confirming property ownership?


Politicians are not big on details.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:28 pm to
Why having overbearing governments on either side are shitty
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 3:58 pm to
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Go ahead and tell us more about all the CSA statues that have been forcibly removed from private property.
Well, for starters, the PGT Beauregard statue in New Orleans was on private property. Didn’t stop the city from taking it down anyway.





This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
41143 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:06 pm to
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Did they seriously spend the time to draft a bill about a specific statue without confirming property ownership?



Never underestimate the stupidity of gov't.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:11 pm to
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PGT Beauregard statue in New Orleans was on private property. Didn’t stop the city from taking it down anyway.




Property owner must have supported it. otherwise he could have sued the city for trespassing, damaging private property and theft.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:14 pm to
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State attempts to seize Lenin statue


Is that the quartet practicing in the park behind it?
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5003 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:17 pm to
Let is stay up
They will just wrap a boat with it if you tear it down.
That's what happens
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
2146 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 4:20 pm to
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Well, for starters, the PGT Beauregard statue in New Orleans was on private property.
My understanding was that both Orleans Parish Civil District Court and the U.S. District Court ruled that it was on city property. Was there a later ruling that overturned those decisions?
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