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Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:16 pm to pelicanpride
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Does repeatedly acing standardized tests count?
No, I don’t think it means shite other than he/she is a good test taker.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:17 pm to LeeLoUA16
I had turned 18 about three weeks before I started LSU, quit pampering and helicoptering, kids need to learn how to face the world, going to stumble a few times but they need to learn how to deal with life
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:18 pm to pelicanpride
This is painting with far too broad a stroke. My son would be bored out of his mind if he was a grade lower. Not a brag just a counter point to the over generalization of the OP. You can’t improve on straight As and having good friends.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:19 pm to pelicanpride
I started a year late, and had some pretty big issues later in my academic life.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:19 pm to 777Tiger
Nope, follow the John Curtis and Evangel school plan. LOL
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:19 pm to pelicanpride
I did so...1st grade.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:30 pm to pelicanpride
My son's birthday is in August and when it came time to start K he was absolutely NOT interested in even learning the whole alphabet. At that time the schools had a Developmental Kindergarten (like a pre-K). He tested well enough for regular K but I requested he be held back. It ended up being a good decision because he goofed his way through that class and kindergarten. When he got to 1st grade the only thing he could read was his name. Luckily he had a no-nonsense teacher who didn't put up with his shite. He got sent to the principals office a few times before he wised up. By the end of 1st grade he was reading at a 3rd grade level and he excelled from then on.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:33 pm to pelicanpride
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Does repeatedly acing standardized tests count? Ever see a boy with a 2.5 GPA get the highest ACT score in the grade? Who is smarter? The kid with the 3.0 who is 10 points lower on the ACT or the kid with the 2.5? I’d say it’s the kid with the 2.5. Doesn’t mean he will do better in college or be a better employee one day. Emotional regulation certainly matters.
Yeah, I've seen this a million times. These are kids who lack discipline but are smart. They get low GPAs because they can get by in their life doing the bare minimum effort due to their smarts. They'll ace tests but get zeroes in homework, for example. All of the ones I knew personally had shitty family situations though. Like I said in my earlier post, holding these kids back will only make it easier for them to coast by, not harder. You can't just wait for maturity to come. You have to be a father.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:33 pm to pelicanpride
I 100% agree with your sentiments in the OP. And I myself likely would’ve benefitted from that approach. I didn’t really get my shite together until college.
The Devil’s Advocate in me as a parent of 2 young boys is getting them out of that $500-600/month daycare and into free public education is not something most parents are going to go for. They want that monthly cash back ASAP
The Devil’s Advocate in me as a parent of 2 young boys is getting them out of that $500-600/month daycare and into free public education is not something most parents are going to go for. They want that monthly cash back ASAP
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:35 pm to Sofaking2
what we need is a war and the draft, nothing like motivating a kid to wise up, go to college and make grades than the alternative being combat boots, an M-16, and a free ticket to Vietnam 
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:37 pm to pelicanpride
Using the college gap between female and male enrollment is just stupid. There are real reasons for that and it has nothing to do with boys maturity being behind girls and affecting their academic performance.
It is almost entirely due to two things:
1) Jobs without a college degree that are more suited for men out number those for women. Technical positions, manual labor, mining, etc are all easily available to men. Women are less likely to work in those areas, this go to some form of college schooling.
2) Huge push for more women to both go to school/get educated and also majors pushes for women into STEM fields. That is not going to result in more men in traditionally female majors, just now female students in genera.
Sure, maturity can be affected, but by holding your kid back without a true reason, you are actually limiting their ability to gain knowledge. At that age of 3-5 years old, kids are like sponges and learn and grasp concepts extremely well and it becomes harder as they get older. Just like with language, the same happens.
Stop assuming your situation of a class clown for a kid means all boys are too immature to be on a level playing field with girls.
It is almost entirely due to two things:
1) Jobs without a college degree that are more suited for men out number those for women. Technical positions, manual labor, mining, etc are all easily available to men. Women are less likely to work in those areas, this go to some form of college schooling.
2) Huge push for more women to both go to school/get educated and also majors pushes for women into STEM fields. That is not going to result in more men in traditionally female majors, just now female students in genera.
Sure, maturity can be affected, but by holding your kid back without a true reason, you are actually limiting their ability to gain knowledge. At that age of 3-5 years old, kids are like sponges and learn and grasp concepts extremely well and it becomes harder as they get older. Just like with language, the same happens.
Stop assuming your situation of a class clown for a kid means all boys are too immature to be on a level playing field with girls.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:44 pm to pelicanpride
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Which part? Anyone with young kids or anyone who remembers their teenage years can tell you that boys are immature compared to their female peers. Girls are not kicking boys’ asses in school because they are smarter. They have the emotional regulation needed to do the work at an earlier age.
They're pulling ahead because the education system is practically designed to punish boys for being boys. Starting your sons a year later is just wasting more of their youth in a system that's not for them.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:49 pm to pelicanpride
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If it’s all parenting
If it’s not parenting then it’s genetic. Doesn’t necessarily have to be a boy versus girl thing.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 5:51 pm to pelicanpride
Start them a year late so they’ll be the first to turn 21 in college. Everyone will move them
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:08 pm to pelicanpride
Same with mine. They are late bloomers, which made middle school very difficult.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:11 pm to pelicanpride
Both my boys were born in the fall, they are being kept back regardless due to cut off dates.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:15 pm to pelicanpride
I have an August boy. I’m not holding him back if he’s ready. My husband & I were both the youngest in our classes, and we were fine. Because of our positive experiences, the thought of being nearly 19 and still in high school is a little horrifying to me. Obviously I will hold him back if he’s not ready by some metric, but it won’t be done arbitrarily.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:22 pm to 777Tiger
quote:please no - I have 4 boys, no thanks
what we need is a war and the draft
(Unless they want to go, that’s different)
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:24 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:I have a boy that age too - but he’s a Dec birthday - he’s more mature than some of the girls he knows that are the same grade
It just depends on the kid. If our youngest was born 26 days earlier she'd be a SR this year. She's almost a year older than some of her classmates. She's light years more mature than my 2 nephews in the same grade but that all evens out around 18-20 imo.
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