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Stanford Paper: Median infection fatality rate of Covid-19 for those under 70 just 0.04%

Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64954 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:10 pm
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John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology and population health at Stanford University, argues in a paper published earlier this month that COVID-19 "seroprevalence studies," which measure infection rates using the presence of antibodies in blood samples, "typically show a much lower fatality than initially speculated in the earlier days of the pandemic."

"It should be appreciated," he writes in the paper, "that [the fatality rate] is not a fixed physical constant and it can vary substantially across locations, depending on the population structure, the case-mix of infected and deceased individuals and other, local factors."

In the paper, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, Ioannidis surveyed 23 different seroprevalence studies and found that "among people <70 years old, infection fatality rates ranged from ... 0.00-0.23% with median of 0.04%."

The median fatality rate of all cases, he writes, is 0.26%, significantly lower than some earlier estimates that suggested rates as high as over 3%.

In the paper, Ioannidis acknowledges that "while COVID-19 is a formidable threat," the apparently low fatality rate compared to earlier estimates "is a welcome piece of evidence."

"Decision-makers can use measures that will try to avert having the virus infect people and settings who are at high risk of severe outcomes," he writes. "These measures may be possible to be far more precise and tailored to specific high- risk individuals and settings than blind lockdown of the entire society."


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Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37454 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:11 pm to
So even less than the flu?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53573 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:12 pm to
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John Ioannidis

He was a hell of a linebacker. Should be in the Hall of Fame.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:13 pm to
Seems pretty clear at this point, if you're old and you get it your fricked. You at minimum get sick as shite. If you are young, you're fine, and its likely you'll never even know you've had it.
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
11996 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:44 pm to
The CDC gave a IFR of 0.4% for symptomatic people almost a month ago. They estimated 65% of those will be symptomatic so if you factor in asymptomatic cases as well you end up with his IFR of 0.26% for everyone lumped in. The virus is political at this point, and it's a crime at how the media is driving the politics in it.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15082 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Seems pretty clear at this point, if you're old and you get it your fricked. You at minimum get sick as shite.


The four people I know that got it are in their 70s & 80s. None required hospitalization and were back to normal in 2 weeks or less.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:49 pm to
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The four people I know that got it are in their 70s & 80s. None required hospitalization and were back to normal in 2 weeks or less.


I've never been sick for 2 weeks. Id consider that sick as shite
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64116 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:50 pm to
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if you're old and you get it your fricked.


Not true. Plenty of older healthy people in good shape do great.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7295 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:53 pm to
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I've never been sick for 2 weeks. Id consider that sick as shite


This here.

If I'm going on 2 weeks sick my arse is going somewhere to see what is wrong. Hell, if I'm sick for 2 days I start to get worried that something bigger is going on.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65489 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:54 pm to
Shut down new orleans
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:58 pm to
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So even less than the flu?


A little higher than the flu when all patients are included - but not much.

Not sure the flu fatality rate for those under 70. I would imagine it drops substantially as the elderly are the most susceptible.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Not true. Plenty of older healthy people in good shape do great.




Sure, but of you told me if I had a 5% chance of dieing or a greater chance then that I'd have to be in the hospital for several days to weeks from a very contagious virus id stay my arse at home. If I told you there was a 5% chance you'd be in a fata car accident every time you drove you'd think harder about how often you got in your car.

Most will be OK, but a large number of older people are also going to get extremely sick or die.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259935 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:01 pm to
Our entire tourist season down the drain and the local Luddites are celebrating their safeness.

People are such goddamned sheep.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:07 pm to
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A scientist known for his contrarian takes to dire COVID-19 predictions has released a paper claiming that antibody evidence suggests the median coronavirus infection fatality rate for those under 70 is just 0.04%.


This is the opening sentence to that article.

What it should say is:

The only scientist that had the courage from the beginning of this pandemic to be objective and use actual data with regards to COVID-19 predictions has released a paper claiming that antibody evidence suggests the median coronavirus infection fatality rate for those under 70 is just 0.04%.
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1582 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:08 pm to
This will never be covered by the MSM. Instead you will hear about 16 middle aged women who went out to a bar and got Covid. Never mind the fact that nothing happened to them.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98479 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:14 pm to
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So even less than the flu?


Denier
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2652 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:12 pm to
I'm on Day 9 of a COVID flu and am starting to wish I were in the .4%. I'm normally a healthy guy (not overweight and workout often) and this damn thing just won't freaking go away.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15036 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:40 pm to
I dont get it. This says 28% of the deaths are people under 65

Worldmeters -

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Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18067 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:43 pm to
We are living in the time of stupidity.
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