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re: Standing in my dads toolshed is upsetting to think what most look like today
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:12 pm to jlovel7
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:12 pm to jlovel7
I love old tools, got this brace and bit from the shop guy at our local hardware store. I think it is at least 60 years old but it still works beautifully.
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Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:18 pm to jlovel7
Vintage tools at estate sales are a great bargain. Usually 50+ years old, super cheap, and worth plenty of coin.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Good to see. We rarely agree on anything.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:31 pm to Paul Allen
Probably more than you think. When you come to the realization that progressivism is a cancer, you'll hate on me less.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:51 pm to Misnomer
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I love old tools, got this brace and bit from the shop guy at our local hardware store. I think it is at least 60 years old but it still works beautifully.
Quality new bit braces are hard to find they are mainly used by Windsor (or similar) chair makers. Seloron (French) makes a decent one but most use old Yankee 2101a braces, they were also made under Stanley and Bell Systems names.
Stanley made a lot of good handplanes especially pre-war but aren't as good as some of the best modern ones like Lie-Nielsen and Veritas not to mention Bridge City or Holtey. Holtey is in another world even for infill planes a Holtey 928 smoother will run you over $10k.
Plenty of good old chisels as well but I still prefer the new steels better from Veritas, Lie Nielson, Phiel, and Blue Spruce. Part of the reason I prefer new or modern is I just don't have the time to rust-hunt or fettle them when I do have them. I have a friend in VA that worked as the luthier at Colonial Williamsburg for decades and has the most incredible collection of vintage woodworking tools I have ever seen. His name is George Wilson and this is some of his work done completely with handtools.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:29 pm to jlovel7
My dad was walking around an antique shop in Bristol a few weeks ago and found a Ford crescent wrench they used to include for Model T and Model A cars. It had a special square end for the drain plug. The wrench not only still worked, but looked damn good for a 100 year old tool.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:48 pm to real turf fan
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We still have my Father's woodworking tools from the 40s and 50s.
My father still has my grandfather’s Porter Cable belt sander. I don’t know how old it is but my grandfather was born in 1895. That thing may be 100 years old. It’s also as heavy as a concrete block.
I’ve got Craftsman screwdrivers, wrenches, sockets, hammers that I’ve had for close to 40 years and no reason to believe they will ever need to be replaced. I used to buy Craftsman power tools but prefer Milwaukee now.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:52 pm to iAmBatman
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You realize tariffs are a tax on local consumers, right? It’s also extremely anti-capitalism...didn’t realize we had so many commies on this board that don’t love a free market. Sad
Looks like that check from the Koch brothers cleared.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:56 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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We need more tariffs and less income and property taxes in this country.
Wanna know how I know you’ve never taken an economics course? We implement tariffs, then we have retaliatory tariffs slapped on us. Like it or not, but our agricultural industry relies on exports. Tariffs only hurt us.
I mean, frick, Adam Smith had this figured out in 1776.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/28/20 at 4:59 pm to Sentrius
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Looks like that check from the Koch brothers cleared.
Who do you think pays the tariffs? Because I’ve personally paid over $200k in tariffs over the past 2.5 years. You think I’m absorbing that cost or passing it on to my customers?
ETA: to top it all off, US imports from China have RISEN since the tariffs were implemented. It has failed in its singular mission.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:02 pm to colorchangintiger
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Who do you think pays the tariffs? Because I’ve personally paid over $200k in tariffs over the past 2.5 years. You think I’m absorbing that cost or passing it on to my customers?
Now do the costs of jobs shipped overseas.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:03 pm to elprez00
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My dad was walking around an antique shop in Bristol a few weeks ago and found a Ford crescent wrench they used to include for Model T and Model A cars. It had a special square end for the drain plug. The wrench not only still worked, but looked damn good for a 100 year old tool.
I've bought/sold all sorts of old Ford tools over the years. I had a nearly complete tool set in a tool roll with the Ford logo on it. It was missing the spark plug wrench. I replaced it with one I had, but it wasn't quite from the same time period.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:04 pm to jlovel7
It is disgusting how cheap and frail tools and home building materials have become. Just shows how expensive and unscalable it all is.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:09 pm to LSU82BILL
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My father still has my grandfather’s Porter Cable belt sander. I don’t know how old it is but my grandfather was born in 1895. That thing may be 100 years old. It’s also as heavy as a concrete block.
Probably the best known P-C vintage sander is the model 500 4x27. They were built in the 40s and 50s and weighed close to 30 pounds. Sometimes called the locomotive sander for obvious reasons. They made several smaller ones but this is the biggest and most popular among collectors.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:12 pm to Obtuse1
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Quality new bit braces are hard to find they are mainly used by Windsor (or similar) chair makers. Seloron (French) makes a decent one but most use old Yankee 2101a braces, they were also made under Stanley and Bell Systems names.
Millers Falls made some of the best braces. I actually use one of their basic braces from time to time. I have one of their corner braces, which is made at a 90° angle to drill into corners. I just like the looks of it, so I've kept it hanging on my shop wall. Millers Falls breast drills are really good too. I've got one of those. I've held onto quite a few different tools by them.
I had MF 14C (Stanley No. 5 equivalent) with a corrugated bottom. It was the first plane I ever tuned up and used. Someone else liked it more than I did and I sold it. Really wish I had kept it. It was one of the best vintage planes I've used.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:23 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Now do the costs of jobs shipped overseas.
And exactly how many jobs have the tariffs brought back?!
What’s even more frustrating is that the amount the US govt has collected in tariffs is almost 1:1 to what the US govt has given to farmers to offset the exports they have lost out on because of retaliatory tariffs.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:24 pm to Obtuse1
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Probably the best known P-C vintage sander is the model 500 4x27. They were built in the 40s and 50s and weighed close to 30 pounds. Sometimes called the locomotive sander for obvious reasons. They made several smaller ones but this is the biggest and most popular among collectors.
The real question is, would it win the bracket at the annual Belt Sander Races?
ETA: Yes, there really is such a thing. You can find it on YouTube.
This post was edited on 11/28/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:26 pm to colorchangintiger
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Who do you think pays the tariffs?
Its an economically ignorant board.
They think it hurts China. It hurts the consumer more
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If anything it’s shown me that I was charging too little for my product.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:36 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Millers Falls made some of the best braces.
If you can find a MF Parsons Deluxe with Leland jaws I agree, of the more basic ones I would rather have a Yankee.
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I had MF 14C (Stanley No. 5 equivalent) with a corrugated bottom.
I have never owned a corrugated sole plane. It does make flattening the sole easier. That said I only use modern planes and prefer low angle/bevel up but most of the fully handtool users tend to prefer standard beval down planes.
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