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Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:34 am to High C
I took many more standardized tests than my friends in other schools growing up in the 80s. I scored much higher than most of them on the ACT and SAT and I can tell you I'm no braniac. It was just practice and being relaxed while taking them IMO.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:35 am to High C
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Problem is, these practice tests have no impact on the student or their grade in any way.
When I was in school we were always told this and it was reinforced that standardized tests "were just a way to gauge how the school did as a whole." They weren't important on the individual level.
Well, for kids trying to get into private high schools, those tests help determine eligibility for some schools. The ACT and SAT are much more important than GPA for just about every college, and the LSAT, MCAT, GMAT and GRE are more important to grad schools than a GPA.
If anything, kids aren't being prepared enough for these tests.
ETA
I say this as someone who worked in admissions for a while. Standardized testing is THE measuring stick for applicants. GPA can supplement, but it is not nearly as relevant as it once was.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:37 am to High C
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Imagine if your job performance was based on how well someone else did something, when that someone had nothing to motivate them to do that something well.
For supervisors like myself, it is. You are supervising children. Get over it.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:37 am to High C
Can you make the tests count towards their grade?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:52 am to Black n Gold
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For supervisors like myself, it is
So, you can't replace a worker who's not doing his job?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:03 am to anc
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cultivating strengths > reinforcing weakness
What happened to the mentality that not everyone goes to college. If you're good at being a mechanic but terrible at biology, then hey, focus on rebuilding engines not forcing the kid to get better at Micro.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:23 am to High C
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practice tests
We used to go to school so stoned on those days. You knowingly are taking tests that take all day and have zero incentive or impact. Many just skipped.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:24 am to High C
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However, the state dept. of education uses these test scores as almost the sole means of determining our effectiveness as teachers. Imagine if your job performance was based on how well someone else did something, when that someone had nothing to motivate them to do that something well.
This is a terrible situation and totally flawed. Highly recommend watching John Oliver's segment on this problem.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:37 am to High C
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However, the state dept. of education uses these test scores as almost the sole means of determining our effectiveness as teachers. Imagine if your job performance was based on how well someone else did something, when that someone had nothing to motivate them to do that something well.
Are you saying that the problem is with motivation for this specific test? Or, are you saying that the problem is with motivation in general for a significant percentage of your students?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:25 pm to moneyg
Overall motivation is the problem. I discuss intrinsic vs. extrinsic with my students. After we talk, I ask how many are intrinsically motivated to do well in school. I average two to three hands up in each class of 25-30 students.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:29 pm to High C
Everyone pretty much hates school, as you know.
Tell the kids the must try hard even though they hate it. If they do, they'll get money and cars and bitches. If they don't, they'll be hanging off the back of a garbage truck in a few years.
Tell the kids the must try hard even though they hate it. If they do, they'll get money and cars and bitches. If they don't, they'll be hanging off the back of a garbage truck in a few years.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:29 pm to Black n Gold
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For supervisors like myself, it is. You are supervising children. Get over it.
You can get rid of employees who aren't doing their job. You aren't forced to keep them and then get fired yourself because your boss said your numbers are horrible. You then tell your boss that you were forced to work employee X, Y and Z despite knowing they sucked and he just says "oh well, too bad.." Those employees keep their job while you are fired. Are you telling me this describes what happens to you as a supervisor? I seriously doubt it.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:34 pm to High C
You joined a profession where the people who live around you vote for your leadership. Expecting competency to come from that is preposterous.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:41 pm to PrivatePublic
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You joined a profession where the people who live around you vote for your leadership. Expecting competency to come from that is preposterous.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 12:52 pm to High C
Isn't it all about getting federal money these days?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:41 pm to High C
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Overall motivation is the problem. I discuss intrinsic vs. extrinsic with my students. After we talk, I ask how many are intrinsically motivated to do well in school. I average two to three hands up in each class of 25-30 students.
So, it's really not about the test. It's a general problem. And, the performance of say 25 of 30 kids is really out of your hands?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:45 pm to High C
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Imagine if your job performance was based on how well someone else did something, when that someone had nothing to motivate them to do that something well.
Teachers aren't the only ones with this problem. Being in charge of others and how they perform are many people's profession.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:49 pm to High C
quote:that 7 week paid vacation during the summer doe
Imagine if your job performance was based on how well someone else did something
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:55 pm to High C
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High C
quote:Oh look, another teacher making excuses on why he did a shitty job teaching elementary arithmetic and english to fourth graders.
the state dept. of education uses these test scores as almost the sole means of determining our effectiveness as teachers. Imagine if your job performance was based on how well someone else did something, when that someone had nothing to motivate them to do that something well.
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