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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
2208 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:09 pm to


NF
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85131 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Within 10 minutes of the shooting, we know the person shot was armed with a knife and involved in a theft.


Still, completely different.... Suspect did multiple things that were witnessed by people leading up to this, multiple officers were on scene, and there was a weapon recovered.

Pretty cut and dry and easy to make a statement on.
Posted by buck54
Member since Nov 2004
828 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:10 pm to
Next protest.
St. Louis cop is a murderer and coward. Suspect only had a knife. Pussy arse cop should have pulled out his knife and fought fair.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Yes and no. Every officer involved shooting is so different. Both seem justifiable. Within 10 minutes of the shooting, we know the person shot was armed with a knife and involved in a theft.


The police announced this? I haven't followed this one yet.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128856 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:11 pm to
Yes. Already had a PC.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Still, completely different.... Suspect did multiple things that were witnessed by people leading up to this, multiple officers were on scene, and there was a weapon recovered.

Pretty cut and dry and easy to make a statement on.



This ... now lets protest to be sure they haven't covered anything up.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109289 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:11 pm to
He was profiled, police wouldn't have shot a white man with a knife in a store.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85131 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

The police announced this? I haven't followed this one yet.


Look back two pages... I quoted what the cop was saying.


He was obviously mentally ill and wanted to die.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Fergeson didn't know these things at an early point. They are still trying to find eyewitnesses.


I thought the cop is asserting he matched MB to the robbery leading to the 2nd contact. If so, Ferguson knew MB was involved in the robbery, no different that City knows this guy was.

Cop is saying he was assaulted by MB. This guy had a knife. Both, as I've learned, are justification for using deadly force.

City made a factual release of information without disclosing all of their details of the investigation. Ferguson didn't. The break Ferguson gets, is the City literally has more experience in such things.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20883 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:12 pm to
Crowd gathering chanting Hands Up Don't Shoot
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Within 10 minutes of the shooting, we know the person shot was armed with a knife and involved in a theft.


With this new shooting I fear for the store owner and his business....likely will burn tonight if everything stays true to form. He will be blamed somehow.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85131 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

This ... now lets protest to be sure they haven't covered anything up.


And the officer who gave the PC is a little full of shite.... We all know he hurried to do the PC to prevent the crowd from getting out of control due to the tensions in Ferguson.

On a normal day, they wouldn't give the PC THAT quickly.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12412 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:13 pm to
I get what 808 is saying about how it is handled and how things may have gone the way they did in part due to that information flow.

However, the key thing is that argument simply proves the point that some make that the protesters are not out for 'justice', just their preconceived notion of it.

Put another way, the argument is that if these people (protesters and such) knew immediately all the facts, this past 10 days would have not happened. To make that argument, you must conclude that these protesters are either too bias, ignorant, hateful or whatever to be able to process information over a period of time.

If all information on Sunday would have quelled, but spreading that over a week causes havoc - the statement is more about the abilities of those causing havoc then the cops in every way.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128856 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

This ... now lets protest to be sure they haven't covered anything up.

Why would I assume they're covering things up when they're releasing info at a breakneck speed?
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35426 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Stop stealing shite.


I thought he was talking to his own people for a second.
Posted by bobbyleewilliams
Tigertown
Member since Feb 2010
8453 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I thought he was talking to his own people for a second.

Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Yes. Already had a PC.
thanks


Posted by bobbyleewilliams
Tigertown
Member since Feb 2010
8453 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I thought he was talking to his own people for a second.


He was, in his own mind.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12343 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:15 pm to
This only means one thing tonight is be even crazy then last 2 nights.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

They are blasting this guy doing the PC on the new shooting because they didn't use tasers.


Who is doing the PC? Did you catch a name?
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