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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:48 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:48 pm to Lsut81
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ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – Authorities are responding to a report of an officer involved shooting in north St. Louis. It happened just before 1 p.m. Tuesday at McLaran and Riverview outside a market.
Authorities say a man tried to rob the 5-Star Market convenience store with a knife.
The store owner says he got into a dispute with the man.
Police were called but the suspect refused to put down the weapon. He tried to attack police and was shot and killed.
We will bring you more details as they become available.
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:50 pm to Langston
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Agree. That's direct accountability
Having the cameras is one thing. You have to make sure they keep them on. There has to be some consequences (not talking losing a job, maybe warning 1st offense and so forth) if they turn them off while they're on duty.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:50 pm to ChallboiMatt
Here's an interesting case study. Let's compare the response to the latest shooting to the one in Ferguson and see what's different with respect to outcomes.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:51 pm to reedus23
Btw, CNN already floating the problem I foresee in the near future...
Speaking about how the secrecy of a Grand Jury is going to piss people in the community off.
Speaking about how the secrecy of a Grand Jury is going to piss people in the community off.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:52 pm to ChallboiMatt
quote:
ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) – Authorities are responding to a report of an officer involved shooting in north St. Louis. It happened just before 1 p.m. Tuesday at McLaran and Riverview outside a market.
Authorities say a man tried to rob the 5-Star Market convenience store with a knife.
The store owner says he got into a dispute with the man.
Police were called but the suspect refused to put down the weapon. He tried to attack police and was shot and killed.
We will bring you more details as they become available.
Missou killing all these poor, upstanding, innocent people.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:52 pm to reedus23
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City knows how to play the game. Ferguson take note. They got it out there from the get go that it was a robbery and a knife involved. Don't let people fester and stew on it. City got experience in that game.
Fergeson didn't know these things at an early point. They are still trying to find eyewitnesses.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:52 pm to the808bass
Why do blacks and the media choose not to discuss the reason they act like they act instead of what happens to them as a result of their actions?
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:54 pm to Mizzeaux
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Kind of need air for that, don't you?
How much fuel is in the tanks? The rest has some O2 in it.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:54 pm to TIGRLEE
Their actions are a result of what happens to them. 
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:54 pm to TIGRLEE
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Why do blacks and the media choose not to discuss the reason they act like they act instead of what happens to them as a result of their actions?
Two reasons:
Personal responsibility
Political Correctness
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:55 pm to Redbone
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Fergeson didn't know these things at an early point. They are still trying to find eyewitnesses.
They knew the officer was injured enough to need medical care. They had his report. They knew there was a robbery.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:56 pm to munchman
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Personal responsibility
A passé notion in todays society unfortunately
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:57 pm to the808bass
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Here's an interesting case study. Let's compare the response to the latest shooting to the one in Ferguson and see what's different with respect to outcomes.
Because they are similar right. One cop on scene, unarmed suspect, but they can't both be legitimate use of force?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:59 pm to Langston
Unarmed kid in the middle of a residential neighborhood vs knife wielder in the act of a robbery - Not the best case study.
But yes I agree the Ferg cops blew the presentation and communication of information big time.
But yes I agree the Ferg cops blew the presentation and communication of information big time.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:59 pm to Langston
Not too far off
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:00 pm to the808bass
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That's apparently untrue as 12 people are alleged to have backed the officer's story. And even if it had a negative impact on witness testimony (I can't even fathom what that would look like) so what? What is the worst case scenario?
I am curious if those who say to pull no punches in stopping the rioters also support providing such information early to stop the riots. Not sure how releasing it changes anything anyways. Release it earlier and witnesses say what? MB hit the officer? Ok, great, they just became a witness for the prosecution.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:00 pm to the808bass
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They knew the officer was injured enough to need medical care. They had his report. They knew there was a robbery
Again, they said monday I believe they were still trying to find witnesses. What if it hadn't been 12 and only the officer's testimony vs the other supposed "witnesses". I'm not saying it was done right, but I think it would have been a mistake to dump evidence to appease the bunch that were accusing police of murder while his body was still on the ground without having the statements in yet.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:00 pm to the808bass
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They knew the officer was injured enough to need medical care. They had his report. They knew there was a robbery.
Robbery reported and dismissed as character assassination. Protesters would have cheered any harm to LE.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:01 pm to Langston
About the shooting a min ago:
Walked in and took two energy drinks
Returned and took pastries
Owner followed him and the threw the pastries
Paced up and down the street
Cops confronted him, he pulled knife, and said shoot and kill me
Continues walking around while surrounded
Approached officer in passenger seat of cruiser and was subsequently shot by 2 officers
Walked in and took two energy drinks
Returned and took pastries
Owner followed him and the threw the pastries
Paced up and down the street
Cops confronted him, he pulled knife, and said shoot and kill me
Continues walking around while surrounded
Approached officer in passenger seat of cruiser and was subsequently shot by 2 officers
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:01 pm to Redbone
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