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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

GEAUXmedic


You keep saying that when the national guard comes out that people don't have the same rights as they did before.

What rights have they lost?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134676 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:38 pm to
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legit question: why is protesting at night so important?


Why do roaches hide out under the fridge during the day?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182644 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:39 pm to
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Have the arguments over the past weak been solely about the community and the police or has it been materially and significantly about race from day 1?






It's a black thing
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12417 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:39 pm to
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Whether we would have had the same response or not is a fun sociological question.


One where I think we all know the answer because the reaction is well beyond community vs cop.

quote:

It in no way diminishes the philosophical basis for protesting the denial of civil rights by state actors.


Fair enough and if such protest extended to solely the protest of the denial of civil rights by the cops (and maybe I am asking too much but actually was done after the facts were known to support such a significant claim), then I would be in your parlor on this.

But it is well beyond that and the facts are far from clear in justifying the conclusion and demands.

So again, even if we find scenarios with philosophical justification, this week is not 'it' terms of both scope and fact.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30178 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:39 pm to
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President Barack Obama said he told Nixon he'll be watching to determine if the Guard's presence is beneficial or harmful.


There is some irony in this statement.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21750 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:39 pm to
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National Guard is taking position on roof tops.


Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:39 pm to
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quote: When the state of emergency was signed, it opened up a whole new world for action to be taken. Its all legal no matter how much anyone wants to file their little lawsuits and such. That's what they're telling us. I'm not sure it's as cut and dried as they're presenting it.

Jay Nixon was a DA, then Attorney General before becoming governor. I can't imagine he would take any steps he wasn't sure were legally supportable.

And now we have Nelly. I was waiting for this!
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12345 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:39 pm to
Call them Klan members its on Anon Ops twitter.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21750 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:41 pm to
What page is the latest live feeds links on?
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12345 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:42 pm to
I am watching reddit , Control room from Matt , and twitter search page.. and live scanner off ustream.. Need get a 2nd screen bad lol
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:42 pm to
I'm more referring to the State of Emergency..

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This means that the government can suspend and/or change some functions of the executive, the legislative and or the judiciary during this period of time. It alerts citizens to change their normal behaviour and orders government agencies to implement emergency plans. A government can declare a state of emergency during a time of natural or man-made disaster, during a period of civil unrest, or following a declaration of war or situation of international/internal armed conflict. Justitium is its equivalent in Roman law.

It can also be used as a rationale for suspending rights and freedoms, even if those rights and freedoms are guaranteed under the Constitution. Under the protocol of the ICCPR, rights and freedoms may be suspended during a state of emergency, for example, a government can detain citizens and hold them without trial. All rights that can be derogated from are listed in the International Covenant for Civil and Political Rights. Some sources argue that non-derogable rights cannot be suspended. However this theory is contested. Emergency law does and can override non-derogatory rights during a state of emergency.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 6:45 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:42 pm to
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What page is the latest live feeds links on?



first page, 3 posts down
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85157 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:43 pm to
Nelly just got done running with the apparently false narrative on CNN
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7477 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:43 pm to
STFU Nelly....you are washed up.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:44 pm to
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Nelly just got done running with the apparently false narrative on CNN


some one has to buy his records. the st. lunatics are all washed up.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:45 pm to
10060 Halls Ferry report of a man threatening to loot the Dollar General - Scanner
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:45 pm to
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Jay Nixon was a DA, then Attorney General before becoming governor. I can't imagine he would take any steps he wasn't sure were legally supportable.


He brought in State police before declaring an emergency which was technically (I believe) illegal.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:46 pm to
At least Nelly is doing something positive and starting scholarships to send kids from that area to college.

Did anyone else catch that he has people from the entertainment industry ready to get involved? I feel an all star hip-hop concert coming on...
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
12345 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:46 pm to
Hands Up dont shoot single coming out soon?
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