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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:08 am to the808bass
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:08 am to the808bass
I'm only looking at tickers right now. How many bullet entries were there? These news outlets are freaking worthless.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 9:09 am
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:09 am to SabiDojo
6 is the number from last night.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:09 am to the808bass
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Or he could have been falling forward from the neck shot
Not possible... Neck shot was a reentry wound from the eye shot... So his head would have to be down at that point too.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:09 am to roadGator
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6 is the number from last night.
And 2 hit the head?! Great shot placement.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:10 am to Lsut81
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Neck shot was a reentry wound from the eye shot
Exit wound?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:11 am to roadGator
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Exit wound?
Yes, Baden's report states that the shot that entered the eye, exited in the lower jaw and then reentered in the neck.
So would have to be almost identical angle as the shot that hit the top of the head... He would have to be leaning forward.
Unless its a magic bullet that can change directions.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:12 am to Lsut81
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Unless its a magic bullet that can change directions.
Well, to be fair, it wouldn't be the FIRST time someone has posited this theory.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:12 am to SabiDojo
Either the officer was in fear for his life or he executed the kid.
With those two options, get ready for riots all across the country.
I'm heading to get more ammo now...just to be prepared because it won't be available near the end of the trial.
With those two options, get ready for riots all across the country.
I'm heading to get more ammo now...just to be prepared because it won't be available near the end of the trial.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:14 am to Lsut81
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Unless its a magic bullet that can change directions.
Hollow points can bounce around crazy after hitting bone. It's not all that far fetched.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:15 am to Lsut81
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Neck shot was a reentry wound from the eye shot... So his head would have to be down at that point too.
That's assuming the bullet took a straight path once it entered the body. I'm not an expert, but I don't believe this is always the case.
And can't shoot someone in the eye who has their head down.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:15 am to roadGator
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Either the officer was in fear for his life or he executed the kid.
With those two options, get ready for riots all across the country.
I told my wife and my parents yesterday:
Because the police department and the mayor's office fricked this up so badly, the truth will mean nothing. There is no trust. It could be completely true that the officer feared for his life and it was a good shooting. It doesn't matter. The truth will not matter.
Still, I think it's questionable whether deadly force was justified. I haven't read the whole report, so I'll give a lot of weight to what you guys think. Y'all are obviously following it much more closely than I am.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:15 am to Lsut81
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So fits the officers narrative (friends account) that Brown was charging at him. He would have his head down.
What? Are you saying he was charging like a bull with his head down
Or
That he was charging and started to fall forward from being shot and them was shot in the top of the head?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:17 am to uway
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That he was charging and started to fall forward from being shot and them was shot in the top of the head?
I personally think this is more likely. But I'm not a forensic pathologist.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:19 am to the808bass
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I personally think this is more likely.
Certainly more likely than the retarded theory that he was charging like a bull with his head down.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:19 am to the808bass
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And can't shoot someone in the eye who has their head down.
Ummm, yes you can. Their head doesn't have to be completely down with their face parallel to the ground. They can be leaning forward, the bullet can enter the eye socket at the bottom and then exit the jaw and go into the neck.
Again, head down DOESN"T mean his face is parallel to the ground
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:21 am to the808bass
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I think you mean nobody wins except government.
I was being sarcastic
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And your first statement is almost a truism. Police can do almost whatever they want. In this case it may be justified. But when it's not, they can still do it with limited (if any) repercussions.
I wasn't referring to the shooting here but moreso the excessive use of force they've used over the past week. When you have groups like Amnesty International stepping in you have to know that at least on the outside things look horrible. Yet there's been no government intervention or attempts to deescalate.
Maybe I don't fully understand how the Judicial branch of government works but it was evident from the beginning that city and county police were completely ineffective and aided in escalating the situation yet they were left in charge through Thur only to be replaced by the state police who employ the same tactics.
Why was things allowed to reach this level? Is it just ineffective government policy or is that they know they are essentially answerable to no one? I know that sounds naive but I've been just as appalled by the police behavior as I have about the looters
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:22 am to SabiDojo
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I'm only looking at tickers right now. How many bullet entries were there? These news outlets are freaking worthless.
Six - four in the arm, one eye shot (exiting neck which suggest leaning forward) and top of head. No gunpowder residue so unlikely up close.
Hilariously the race baiters (MSNBC etc...) are spinning the fact there are four shots in the arm may support he had them up... because you know if you are a cop trying to take down a suspect you are going to aim above his head and to the right in hops of getting that right arm. Yes, the shooter is an Alabama field goal kicker according to them.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:23 am to Lsut81
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Again, head down DOESN"T mean his face is parallel to the ground
A shot in the top of the head pretty much does mean this.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:23 am to SabiDojo
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Because the police department and the mayor's office fricked this up so badly,
not to mention the State Police Captain that is launching his campaign for Governor every time he steps in front of a microphone. Why does he keep apologizing? he is a pandering MFer
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:23 am to igoringa
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No gunpowder residue so unlikely up close.
It's because of this I might find the shooting questionable.
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