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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:53 am to
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:53 am to
I agree. You can make the argument that this kind of civil unrest could happen anywhere. The biggest problem is the egos of the sheriff's and chiefs. They don't want to have to ask for other agencies for help. Which is also understandable. Why should tax payers of one jurisdiction have their officers pulled to go work another jurisdiction.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18340 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:53 am to
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Anyone else get the feeling that the pro-militarization of local police crowd will use the events of the last week to boost their case?

How else do you get an out of control mob to stand down?

Not saying it is right but this is the exact scenario they envisioned.




DEFINITELY
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:53 am to
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I believe 100% at this point that some of the higher ups in charge have wanted this to go the way it is to justify pro-militarization.




It certainly plays into their favor. Capt. Johnson approach isn't looking so good.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 8:55 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95707 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:56 am to
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So when the Officer gets acquitted will there be more riots?


Yes - and I suspect in far more places. However, doom and gloom predictions after Zimmerman's acquittal failed to materialize.

But, in this case, it involves a police officer, so if he's not convicted (and that will be on the murder charges) - I don't think the crowd will wait for the inevitable "civil rights charges" federal trial.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41582 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:56 am to
Meanwhile. 7 dead and 29 wounded in Chicago.

When are the Reverends going to move their base there permanently to actually do some good? Silly me. It's about shakedown money, not the good of the community.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 8:57 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Posted by Chicken Anyone else get the feeling that the pro-militarization of local police crowd will use the events of the last week to boost their case? How else do you get an out of control mob to stand down? Not saying it is right but this is the exact scenario they envisioned.


You know, with full martial law we could avoid all of the unpleasantness that comes with a free society.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
21320 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:59 am to
The officer should not be charged with anything in this case. He did his job.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:59 am to
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charged with snugging
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95707 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:00 am to
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When are the Reverends going to move their base there permanently to actually do some good?


Jesse lives in Chicago. POTUS (at least as an adult) and FLOTUS hail from Chicago. Oprah is from Chicago. HRC is from Chicago.

Ain't nobody got time for that. There's certainly no money or political hay to be made by telling black folks to stop shooting each other.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:01 am to
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The officer should not be charged with snugging in this case.


wut??
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:02 am to
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Yup, if this goes to trial he will get destroyed by a defense attorney.

His deposition may not sound exactly like his public testimony.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20705 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:04 am to
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His deposition may not sound exactly like his public testimony.


I'm expecting a TM's gf moment.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:04 am to
If nothing else this has shown me that the police can do whatever they want with minimal repercussion. They will easily point to Ferguson and say all of their equipment was needed to maintain order. This is their, "cold, dead, hands" moment

Subsequently, I can guarantee the NRA will wait a couple of months and point to Fergusson and Police militarization and say this is why we need guns.

Everybody wins
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84436 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:04 am to
So, the autopsy report showed a bullet entry into the top of the skull? I could work with that.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85161 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:05 am to
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showed a bullet entry into the top of the skull?


Yup, ruled as the fatal shot...


So fits the officers narrative (friends account) that Brown was charging at him. He would have his head down.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:05 am to
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Everybody wins

I think you mean nobody wins except government.

And your first statement is almost a truism. Police can do almost whatever they want. In this case it may be justified. But when it's not, they can still do it with limited (if any) repercussions.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84436 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:06 am to
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So fits the officers narrative (friends account) that Brown was charging at him. He would have his head down.



Does it? Who charges with their head down not looking where they're going?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:06 am to
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So fits the officers narrative (friends account) that Brown was charging at him. He would have his head down.

Or he could have been falling forward from the neck shot.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27488 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:07 am to
Probably hit his eye as he was falling over from previous shots
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128862 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:07 am to
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Does it? Who charges with their head down not looking where they're going?

Someone who just got shot in the eye.
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