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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:56 am to bountyhunter
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:56 am to bountyhunter
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If they have families, who's watching them? Probably the beginning of the whole issue. Parents not being parents, caring more about the things they perceive and not the things that are.
Sooo...you're saying that people with a family can't protest things they perceive as unjust? I can't go protest what I perceive as a constitutional violation because my family is more important?
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It is virtually impossible to separate the lawful from the unlawful when the lawful protect the unlawful.
Kind of like cops protecting each others, right?
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:57 am to bountyhunter
Cliff notes anyone/
Follow up question. I have never been to St. Louis.
I was thinking of stopping by on a drive I am taking, next Tuesday.
Is St' Louis okay? Is this only to the north?
Follow up question. I have never been to St. Louis.
I was thinking of stopping by on a drive I am taking, next Tuesday.
Is St' Louis okay? Is this only to the north?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:57 am to bountyhunter
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I like that you assume I am a cop. No, I am simply a fan of the institution that helps to keep my family safe on a daily basis.
So, exactly what I said. None of the City hall stuff made sense. What would the police chief do about black on black crime?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:57 am to RebelOP
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Cops shooting rubber bullets tear gas and smoke bomb
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at riots
I'm ok with that. I think most people would be ok with that.
After the pic I saw last night, maybe not the rubber bullets.
Those may need to go.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:57 am to cacspertheghost
quote:bullshite
For parents of minorities, they have to fear for their child everyday because of the police.
That's like saying they have to protect them from Brown Recluse spider bites when they have a house full of fricking water moccasins.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:59 am to Napoleon
Prayers sent
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:59 am to Napoleon
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I was thinking of stopping by on a drive I am taking, next Tuesday. Is St' Louis okay? Is this only to the north?
Depends on where you're stopping. This is largely north and a little west. There's been a couple of incidents that seem connected some distances away, but nothing that out of the ordinary for a big city.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to brass2mouth
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It is virtually impossible to separate the lawful from the unlawful when the lawful protect the unlawful.
Kind of like cops protecting each others, right?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to meauxjeaux2
I have more fear of being stopped by the police and arrested for something made up or even attacked than I do getting carjacked or robbed.
I'm white, but have had and seen a lot of fricked up police shite.
I'm white, but have had and seen a lot of fricked up police shite.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to the808bass
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Let me ask you this. If there were no protests, how would Ferguson likely have handled this shooting? If government wants citizens to participate in the social contract, they have to demonstrate they're serious about participating as well.
NO, a big NO. The white community does not have to protest to get justice. When is the black community going to realize they too can get justice without protesting, protesting before the facts are all in? It is mob mentality and historically spawns a violence spree by their own kind. In essence they have jumped ahead of the cart and given themselves a black eye.
We have no idea how Ferguson would have handled this. They weren't given a chance. Give them the chance and protest the outcome if they don't agree. It's stupid to assume they will do some kind of coverup and participate in some social contract in advance. This is mob rules mentality and far inferior to the current force of LEOs.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to bountyhunter
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It is a slum. I live in Baton Rouge, which is mostly a slum. I have lived in Detroit, which is a complete slum. Typical defense of a crappy town is "you haven't seen all of it." My response is, "I have seen enough
Like all major metro areas, St. Louis has slums. Like all major metro areas, St. Louis has nice places. St. Louis is not, itself, a slum.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to meauxjeaux2
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That's like saying they have to protect them from Brown Recluse spider bites when they have a house full of fricking water moccasins.
I like your analogy. It may not make the point you want, but I like it.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:00 am to Napoleon
I heard other parts of St. Louis is fine
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:01 am to reedus23
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:01 am to the808bass
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Depends on where you're stopping. This is largely north and a little west. There's been a couple of incidents that seem connected some distances away, but nothing that out of the ordinary for a big city.
Cool, I was thinking at the least just a couple of pics by the arch and stop for lunch or dinner.
I'm flying to NYC then driving to Witchita then flying back to NOLA. Should be fun.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:02 am to cacspertheghost
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For parents of minorities who don't raise their child right, they have to fear for their child everyday because of the police.
FIFY
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:02 am to Redbone
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NO, a big NO. The white community does not have to protest to get justice. When is the black community going to realize they too can get justice without protesting, protesting before the facts are all in? It is mob mentality and historically spawns a violence spree by their own kind. In essence they have jumped ahead of the cart and given themselves a black eye.
We have no idea how Ferguson would have handled this. They weren't given a chance. Give them the chance and protest the outcome if they don't agree. It's stupid to assume they will do some kind of coverup and participate in some social contract in advance. This is mob rules mentality and far inferior to the current force of LEOs.
I give the Black Community this.
Civil disobedience has helped them out a lot along the way.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:02 am to Redbone
We can predict how the police will handle this from how police handle situations like this from the past.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:03 am to cacspertheghost
I see Anon released the name of the officer who they say did the shooting
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:03 am to Redbone
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It's stupid to assume they will do some kind of coverup and participate in some social contract in advance. This is mob rules mentality and far inferior to the current force of LEOs.
I don't think it's stupid to assume a coverup would occur. I live in a largely white suburb of St. Louis and I'd expect cops to coverup a bad shoot here with no racial angle and a lot less on the line.
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