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re: St. George to Rely on...wait for it...Higher Taxes

Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Bear in mind that if the ISD is established, the $$$$ paid in taxes for EBR would go there instead.


It's racist to control more your tax dollars.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Say what? Might wanna check those "facts" again....


Both Zachary and Central voted new taxes for their schools.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57612 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:23 pm to
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I don't want to pay more money for your precious little snowflake to not have to go to school with kids who, god forbid, don't look like they do.


This is so intentionally obtuse. But keep on being ignorant. I don’t know if you’re black or white or chartreuse, but people like you are what keep stoking the race fire.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Trash is parish - won't change
Water is parish - won't change
Police - maybe, or they may just use EBRSO



Water/Sewer, Trash, Fire, and Police remain the same under the SG proposal. So what's the point of a new city when it doesn't even mean we'd get an ISD out of the deal? The whole parish will get to vote on an ISD, so it doesn't look likely we'd ever get that through.

Roads I guess. Zoning. And ?

So far all I see is an extra layer of bureaucracy for everything to stay the same. SG advocates, what else will I get with a city of SG to make it worth the trouble of forming a new city government?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:29 pm to
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The whole parish will get to vote on an ISD, so it doesn't look likely we'd ever get that through.

Would Baker, Central, and Zachary get to vote on that? That's a lot of like-minded people right there.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:30 pm to
Well, make it all about you!
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:30 pm to
Yes they would.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:31 pm to
Race is involved with that decision but not at the local level.

Any annexation that dilutes the strength of the minority vote is blocked by the federal government. I’d have to look up why but my guess is the VRA of 1964.


What we are seeing now is a byproduct of those interpretations of the law.

Very few residential areas have been annexed into BR since the 1970s though the population moved steadily eastward into the unincorporated areas.


As far as the future goes, IMHO an incorporated St George is about the only way that EBR Parish and the city of BR survive.

Outflow to Livingston and Ascension is huge. The only area of significant growth in EBR is Zachary and that is rapidly reaching saturation as people throw up subdivisions on every piece of open land they can find.


Unfortunately, I figure the usual gang of idiots will block St George and instead try to do something like a city income tax to “reclaim” income made by people working in BR and living in the suburbs.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:34 pm to
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what else will I get with a city of SG to make it worth the trouble of forming a new city government?


You'd get control of the 2% sales tax we pay into the General Fund.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:34 pm to
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Would Baker, Central, and Zachary get to vote on that? That's a lot of like-minded people right there.



Would they care enough to get out and vote?

BR would and the SG area would. It's not a slam dunk by any means.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Would they care enough to get out and vote?



Not if that's all that's on the ballot.

quote:

BR would and the SG area would.


SG would for sure... but how much of BR proper cares to get out and vote against it? That's really the question... I think most of them wouldn't really give a shite. Also really depends on what else is on the ballot.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:38 pm to
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BR would and the SG area would. It's not a slam dunk by any means


I agree, we'd have to get out the vote. Meanwhile the issue is the city.

And I understand where you are coming from, SG proponents need to show you how they can help make your life better. Right now we pay 2% to the parish general fund in sales tax. Are you getting your monies worth for that 2% or could others do better?

That has to be proven.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:40 pm to
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You'd get control of the 2% sales tax we pay into the General Fund.


Which is something. What do we want to do with that money though? Since schools are a separate issue, what will that money be used to improve.

I don't need a detailed plan down to the penny, but I'd like some vision from SG on how the money would be spent. Flood mitigation (like cleaning out our creeks/bayous), what roads we'd improve, I'd assume a general uptick in maintenance for roads in general.
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:41 pm to
Wrong

LINK
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6277 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Police - maybe, or they may just use EBRSO


I can count on one hand the number of BR police I've seen in the St. George area. Mostly Sheriff's Office and occasional State Trooper.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Flood mitigation (like cleaning out our creeks/bayous)


This needs to be a joint effort between several municipalities/parishes... although there are definitely some that could be directly addressed within St. George.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4080 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:50 pm to
LINK Unless they are lying.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4741 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:50 pm to
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I will also have to purchase an additional occupational license for this part of town if I want to work in the area


Do you own vending carts or something? Your occupational license is purchased in the area your business is located. If you are buying from the city now, isn’t that a bit of an overreach by the city? You don’t live in the city but have to buy an occupational license from the city? Why does this not outrage your?

Anyway, you’ll now have to buy an occupational license exactly like the one you currently have. Instead, it will show your residence in the city of st George if it incorporates.
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:50 pm to
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I don't want to pay more money for your precious little snowflake to not have to go to school with kids who, god forbid, don't look like they do. If that's what you want, either move, or pay out of YOUR pocket


How about This instead: I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s when neighborhood schools were a great place to get an education. Property values were steady around the neighborhood schools and there was little to no crime. Bussing was forced upon these neighborhood schools and the decay began to steadily build until the schools were terrible, unsafe, and the home/property values plummeted. The racial makeup of these failed (or failing) schools has completely flipped as whites fled the neighborhoods and send their kids to private or parochial schools.

SO, you can take your “snowflake” comment and shove it right up your arse.

Signed,

Broadmoor, Belaire, Sherwood, Woodlawn, Baker

The neighborhood of Tara is still doing well but the kids in the neighborhood do not attend their own neighborhood school.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4080 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:52 pm to
They voted it in by the people, not the newly formed government. Big difference. - LINK
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