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re: St. George: Donations for Legal Fees
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:12 am to Giantkiller
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:12 am to Giantkiller
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It's completely understandable after the media blitz they had to step on the gas. Now they need help.
Oh woe is me. Having a lawsuit challenge that is 100% legal to do regardless of it being shitty (it is) is part of creating that city. That's part of the headache. I didn't vote for St. George for this reason it has been poorly planned from the get go. The budget numbers were woefully low and out of touch with what it takes to run a city. Major assumptions were made that didn't line up with any other comparative incorporation of an area that size.
The fact they need money now to help fight this lawsuit right or wrong just shows how bad the planning was. Let's blow all our money getting the votes then worry about the rest later is what's wrong with politics across the country. As a project manager I would be immediately fired from every company for not having this forethought. Why can't we expect the same from our government organizers. whether I voted for it or not I'm going to be paying taxes to this city now I was promised better, I expect better.
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:15 am to lsu2006
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Has anyone here actually read the lawsuit?
LINK to Lawsuit
It's a shite show of inaccuracies on the part of the City-Parish and the two sorry arse excuses for attorneys pushing it (MOP and Slimeball Unglesby).
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:17 am to Ed Osteen
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What are you so angry about? Because all you have done throughout this whole thread is show your arse
I’m not angry at all. It seems that the StG residents are angry that after several years, their effort still has the cart before the horse. If the StG opposition was able to gather so many private dollars, why isn’t the wealthier area of StG able to do the same?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:17 am to mindbreaker
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I expect better.
Then step up and do something. Nobody will bring it to you on a silver platter. All talk, no action.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 9:18 am
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:19 am to tommy2tone1999
I already read it. What are some examples of the inaccuracies? I'm really trying to understand.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:20 am to tommy2tone1999
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Guess you didn't know that Together Baton Rouge is just a local branch of the national Industrial Areas Foundation started by Saul Alinsky himself.
This isn't wrong.
IAF Affiliates
IAF Wiki
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The Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) is a national community organizing network established in 1940[1] by Saul Alinsky
As far as the Soros connection, this is definitely a group it seems like he would give money to, but I haven't found anything linking them. I also have only done a cursory google search and a glance at the foundations 990, which doesn't list individual donors.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:23 am to tommy2tone1999
Not that it is their job, but Art Favre and supposedly Eddie Rispone are big STG backers. Them covering the court fees is like middle class people buying lunch. Trying to get middle class voters to outspend mega millionaires is futile.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:25 am to tommy2tone1999
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Then step up and do something.
sure I'll step up to help something I never supported to begin with I'll get right on that.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:25 am to mindbreaker
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Oh woe is me. Having a lawsuit challenge that is 100% legal to do regardless of it being shitty (it is) is part of creating that city. That's part of the headache. I didn't vote for St. George for this reason it has been poorly planned from the get go. The budget numbers were woefully low and out of touch with what it takes to run a city. Major assumptions were made that didn't line up with any other comparative incorporation of an area that size.
The fact they need money now to help fight this lawsuit right or wrong just shows how bad the planning was. Let's blow all our money getting the votes then worry about the rest later is what's wrong with politics across the country. As a project manager I would be immediately fired from every company for not having this forethought. Why can't we expect the same from our government organizers. whether I voted for it or not I'm going to be paying taxes to this city now I was promised better, I expect better.
It's easy to backseat drive it, but I think the organizers were doing as much as they could to leave the city still tangible to plan after incorporation. How responsible would it have been to plan it all to the tee, including a mayor and other seats of government? The goal looks like it was always to loosely plan so that the city could form itself with it's future leaders.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:26 am to lsu2006
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I already read it. What are some examples of the inaccuracies? I'm really trying to understand.
First, M E Cormier being a party to the suit. According to RS 33:4 she has no grounds. To be eligible, she either has to be a government official in BR (she is not), a resident of the proposed area (She is not), or own land in the proposed area (does not).
Second, that bullshite Parish ordinance about no more municipalities in EBR Parish. That shite was ruled unconstitutional years ago, as it directly violates a clause in the state constitution.
There are a few more nitpicky other points, but those are some whoppers that seriously make one wonder why Unglesby and MOP are still allowed to practice law if they don't know this.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:27 am to tommy2tone1999
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wo sorry arse excuses for attorneys pushing it (MOP and Slimeball Unglesby).
Unglesby is far from a sorry arse excuse attorney... the dude is a winner, maybe a slimeball, but a winner for sure.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:28 am to mindbreaker
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sure I'll step up to help something I never supported to begin with I'll get right on that.
Talk is cheap, so is bad sarcasm
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:29 am to tommy2tone1999
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St. George: Donations for Legal Fees
Asking white people for handouts? How very NBR of them
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:29 am to tommy2tone1999
Why isn’t St. George trying to get pro bono work like Broome gets from Mary Olive Pierson? There’s gotta be a good lawyer willing to donate their time to the cause. I assumed there was already someone ready to do that
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:33 am to Giantkiller
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It's easy to backseat drive it, but I think the organizers were doing as much as they could to leave the city still tangible to plan after incorporation. How responsible would it have been to plan it all to the tee, including a mayor and other seats of government? The goal looks like it was always to loosely plan so that the city could form itself with it's future leaders.
Go present that plan to any private business and see how that works out for you. Which is my point. Why is it that politics and government get a pass as business as usual that wouldn't fly in any other entity in the world.
Look it passed and I think the lawsuit is ridiculous but I'm not going to jump up now and get on the all aboard train when the entire reason i didn't vote for this is what is occurring right now.
I looked at their plan, it was shitty, it's always been shitty.
begging for money after the fact proves that.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:35 am to tommy2tone1999
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First, M E Cormier being a party to the suit. According to RS 33:4 she has no grounds. To be eligible, she either has to be a government official in BR (she is not), a resident of the proposed area (She is not), or own land in the proposed area (does not).
This seems valid and I'm sure Murrell or whoever is defending it will raise this exception and Cormier will be removed as a party.
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Second, that bullshite Parish ordinance about no more municipalities in EBR Parish. That shite was ruled unconstitutional years ago, as it directly violates a clause in the state constitution.
When and by what Court?
I'm all ears if you have more examples of the inaccuracies in the suit.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:41 am to lsu2006
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Judge Morvant will toss it, right?
Guess we’ll find out if he’s a judge or a so called judge
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:43 am to mindbreaker
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Go present that plan to any private business and see how that works out for you. Which is my point. Why is it that politics and government get a pass as business as usual that wouldn't fly in any other entity in the world.
Government is funded through taxes. Taxes can be collected when there is a government. Financing can be had to fill the gap when there is a government.
You seem upset that St. George isn't a bunch of rich people who have so much money that they can pay for the inevitable lawsuits that occur. The St. George effort was grass roots. The average picture of the St. George resident is middle class (not the "snobby rich" as some idiot here said).
And, the outrage is that St. George had the audacity to ask its supporters to DONATE money if they choose. How terrible.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:45 am to mindbreaker
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Look it passed and I think the lawsuit is ridiculous but I'm not going to jump up now and get on the all aboard train when the entire reason i didn't vote for this is what is occurring right now.
You live in the St. George area?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:46 am to ProjectP2294
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As far as the Soros connection, this is definitely a group it seems like he would give money to, but I haven't found anything linking them. I also have only done a cursory google search and a glance at the foundations 990, which doesn't list individual donors.
Soros' organization the Open Society Foundations funnels money to the national IAF through the local branches of the IAF. One notable branch is Faith In Action, formerly known as PICO.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 9:49 am
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