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re: SpaceX Starship Full Stack Test Flight Thread | Cleared Tower, Thru MaxQ, then RUD

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Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:43 am to
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I have seen comments about the size of this thing. Does anyone have a quick image of it vs. Saturn 5?


to my knowledge it is now the largest rocket to ever successfully lift off. I think the Soviets had some of similar size or bigger that all exploded
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16282 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:43 am to
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Why is everyone patting themselves on the back. This looks like a failure and massive expense.


We just watched a rocket more powerful than the Saturn V liftoff. That's pretty frickin insane even if it didn't meet every goal.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30669 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:44 am to
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Why is everyone patting themselves on the back. This looks like a failure and massive expense.

It’s called flight testing for a reason.

If people actually picked up a book they would see NASA had many of the same issues in Project Mercury when developing boosters. Hell the SLS had its share of issues. Part of the reason it’s taken so long is nasa doesn’t want to have a “failure” like this in the age of the internet and have to manage PR. Elon doesn’t give a frick. That’s why they’ve progressed so quickly.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:44 am to
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Why is everyone patting themselves on the back. This looks like a failure and massive expense.


Knew this was coming.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2905 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:44 am to
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otherwise why carry the weight associated?


Redundancy/safety margin.

Biggest difference VS Saturn V is payload and payload area.

Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:44 am to
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Why is everyone patting themselves on the back. This looks like a failure and massive expense.

This is the 1st flight of a test vehicle

The only real goal was definitely clear the tower and MAYBE make it through MaxQ

They got both

Now go through the data and make the necessary improvements before the next test flight
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:44 am to
So did they blow it up intentionally because seperation wasn't working, or did it blow up on it's own?

Also, did the 5 out engines cause a problem with failure to seperate?

Still, clearing the tower and going 4+ minutes was great to see. Smoke some reefer today and get back in the lab tomorrow.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:44 am to
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Why is everyone patting themselves on the back. This looks like a failure and massive expense.
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Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:45 am to
I think the Shuttle program was one of the only that just loaded up and lit the wick. No test flights with the shuttle if I recall.
Posted by Richard Grayson
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Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:45 am to
He's building the largest most advanced multistage rocket ever to try and achieve intergalaxy planetary travel, and that rocket was successfully built, tested, and then launched today which is a massive achievement in aerospace technology.

Some idiot: Hurr it didn't look good on video to me. Time to shut the company down.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
20319 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:45 am to
thanks for the answer on engines.

and HOLY shite that thing is MASSIVE!!!!
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:46 am to
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Does anyone have a quick image of it vs. Saturn 5?

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69063 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:46 am to
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Why is everyone patting themselves on the back. This looks like a failure and massive expense.


It would have been icing on the cake had the Spaceship capsule achieved a successful separation. But what was achieved today was a successful launch of the largest and most powerful rocket in the history of mankind. They can work on the capsule separation issue. That is a lot easier problem to resolve than if the rocket itself had failed and they had to start over from scratch.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:46 am to
Don't know the answer but I'm sure Elon will tell us.

People have no idea how many problems NASA had for years. They had men die testing Gemini.

The Soviets blew up many, many rockets.

SpaceX itself failed many many times in their first tests now they launch rockets more regularly than anyone in history.
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
317 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:46 am to
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They need that thrust otherwise why carry the weight associated?


There's built in redundancy. I know by design (design flight, not test flight) they could afford to lose 3 engines and make the nominal target orbit, or a few more engines and still make a lower orbit.

But orbit was never the goal today. Even a full burn of all engines would have been suborbital.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11446 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:46 am to
Yes they blew it up on purpose
Posted by chicano12
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Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:47 am to
Seeing these posts back to back is pretty funny

Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3413 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:48 am to
It's really hard to grasp the size of these things unless you see one in person. First time I saw the Saturn V in Houston it just blew my mind how massive it was and that we could build such a thing.
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