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re: So who else here thinks ADHD in children is bullsh*t??
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:35 am to Hangover Haven
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:35 am to Hangover Haven
Honestly I hate having to put my kid on these drugs. Quilivant was what he was on till it became unavailable, now he takes some chewable purple pill. He drops about 15 pounds during the first half of the school year cause it curbs hunger. He gains it all back during the summer.
His first two years of school were a nightmare. To the point where teachers thought there was something more mental than ADHD.
Now he is in 6th grade and is the only boy that has made principles list last year and also made it the year before. He also goes to a private school which is supposed to be the hardest in BR
His first two years of school were a nightmare. To the point where teachers thought there was something more mental than ADHD.
Now he is in 6th grade and is the only boy that has made principles list last year and also made it the year before. He also goes to a private school which is supposed to be the hardest in BR
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:35 am to WaydownSouth
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I’m not a Dr. that deals directly with ADHD testing. I’m a Pharm. D. I understand what the disease is and see people abuse drugs on a daily basis. Pain pils, adderall, the whole nine yards. Its way over prescribed
You're a Pharm D, thats great, has nothing to do with ADHD or the diagnosis of it. Your statements have shown that more than once in this thread. I used to work for Lowes in the 2000s, so that makes me a contractor right? Would you let me build your house?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:35 am to WaydownSouth
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Nah man. Same kids can sit in front of a video game for hours, but can’t sit still in class? Complete bull shite. I’d never put my child on those meds
So...what you are saying is that kids are able to concentrate when their brain gets constant visual stimulation...but have trouble concentrating when there isn't a constant stimulus?
Do you even know how the brain works? Of course you don't...because you haven't had to study it.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:36 am to CharlesLSU
I never “debunked” it. I said its misdiagnosed. People on here can't even read. Same thing goes with pain. Its based off subjective information
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:37 am to madmaxvol
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Do you even know how the brain works? Of course you don't...because you haven't had to study it.
he's a pharmacist. somewhere along the lines he forgot he's the one who follows the orders of MDs and not the other way around. otherwise, he'd have gone to med school......and maybe learned about child neurological and behaviorial disorders.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:38 am to WaydownSouth
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I never “debunked” it. I said its misdiagnosed. People on here can't even read. Same thing goes with pain. Its based off subjective information
There is also objective information that can be used.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:38 am to GeauxOCDP
I don’t think could have succeeded in school without hyper focus, I’d be afraid I wouldn’t be as smart on ADHD medication. Same with rock climbing, I’d be afraid I wouldn’t have been creative enough to want to scale a 1000 ft granite rock. Yea you can stay focused, but how good are you without the peaks and valleys? What if you need those peak focus times to study something hard?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:38 am to WaydownSouth
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I never “debunked” it. I said its misdiagnosed.
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Nah man. Same kids can sit in front of a video game for hours, but can’t sit still in class? Complete bullshite. I’d never put my child on those meds
…..please translate
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 11:39 am
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:39 am to HogBalls
Teach kids to cope with their weaknesses, don't give them a drug.
Yes I am sure it helps children focus better if you drug them... is that worth it?
Yes I am sure it helps children focus better if you drug them... is that worth it?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:40 am to Higgysmalls
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Honestly I hate having to put my kid on these drugs. Quilivant was what he was on till it became unavailable, now he takes some chewable purple pill. He drops about 15 pounds during the first half of the school year cause it curbs hunger. He gains it all back during the summer.
His first two years of school were a nightmare. To the point where teachers thought there was something more mental than ADHD.
Now he is in 6th grade and is the only boy that has made principles list last year and also made it the year before. He also goes to a private school which is supposed to be the hardest in BR
Congrats man, sounds like you've done a great job parenting your ADHD child. I understand the difficulty for sure, mine just started school. Discipline is not lacking with my child, he is incredibly well behaved and the smartest kid in his class. He just can't sit still or go without stimuli for too long. Also has some speech related issues from it. People who don't experience it, have no idea what it takes.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:41 am to Gaston
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I don’t think could have succeeded in school without hyper focus, I’d be afraid I wouldn’t be as smart on ADHD medication. Same with rock climbing, I’d be afraid I wouldn’t have been creative enough to want to scale a 1000 ft granite rock. Yea you can stay focused, but how good are you without the peaks and valleys? What if you need those peak focus times to study something hard?
ADHD meds just zero in the hyperfocus. I found that I had a very difficult time leaving certain focuses when medicated. Also the meds help balance chemical levels, decreasing anxiety, which often causes the constant moving and squirming.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 11:45 am
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:42 am to CharlesLSU
There are children who can sit in front of video games daily and not concentrate in class. That is 100% true. I lived in a fraternity house for 4 years and watched people go to different doctors until they got one to write them a script. Yet they had no problem skipping class to sit in front of a tv.
I misspoke. I would try every behavioral method in the book prior to them getting put on meds
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I’d never put my kids on those meds
I misspoke. I would try every behavioral method in the book prior to them getting put on meds
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:46 am to Gaston
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I don’t think could have succeeded in school without hyper focus, I’d be afraid I wouldn’t be as smart on ADHD medication. Same with rock climbing, I’d be afraid I wouldn’t have been creative enough to want to scale a 1000 ft granite rock. Yea you can stay focused, but how good are you without the peaks and valleys? What if you need those peak focus times to study something hard?
Try this...study something hard with the TV on full blast, the radio blaring while someone is trying to hold a conversation with you. That is similar to what an ADHD mind gets when it gets hyper-stimulated. There is a world competing for attention, and a hyper-stimulated brain is overly sensitive to them.
Do you lose some abstract creativity when medicated? Possibly...but being able to tune out the things that your mind isn't otherwise able to tune out greatly offsets that aspect.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:47 am to WaydownSouth
quote:Most decent psychologist will push behavioral therapy before meds. They will give the kid task to complete before their next appointment. Example would be getting the kid to organize their locker and backpack and school items before they come back. Kids with ADHD tend to be messy and super disorganized and one giant way to cope with ADHD without meds is to help the kid become more organized.
I would try every behavioral method in the book prior to them getting put on meds
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:47 am to CivilTiger83
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Teach kids to cope with their weaknesses, don't give them a drug.
Yes I am sure it helps children focus better if you drug them... is that worth it?
Let's do the same thing with environmental allergies. Sure, your immune system is hypersensitive to something...but if you can just learn to cope with it instead of taking an antihistamine, you will be much better off. Am I right?
ETA...cognitive therapy is an important part of treatment...but medication may be necessary, in some instances, as well.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 11:53 am
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:47 am to CivilTiger83
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Teach kids to cope with their weaknesses, don't give them a drug.
Yes I am sure it helps children focus better if you drug them... is that worth it?
YES. ADHD is mental hell for a child. You are doing your child a massive disservice if you refuse to treat a child that actually has it.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:51 am to macaronithepony
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Most decent psychologist will push behavioral therapy before meds. They will give the kid task to complete before their next appointment. Example would be getting the kid to organize their locker and backpack and school items before they come back. Kids with ADHD tend to be messy and super disorganized and one giant way to cope with ADHD without meds is to help the kid become more organized.
This^^^
ADHD medication can truly help a child...but it is something that can be used in conjunction with cognitive therapy (when the therapy isn't enough). Always start with behavioral therapy and coping mechanisms first...but to be completely dismissive about the biochemistry of the brain is short sighted.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:52 am to madmaxvol
I never studied, ever, until my 3rd year of physics at LSU. I had to go to Nicholson at night and physically make myself work problems ALL NIGHT. I’d just go up to conference room and use the chalkboards and do my best to crank through it all. I’d sleep on my book, or walk the halls, or who knows what and then I’d get back to it. All night twice a week, just physically hand my work in a daze around campus until I was done with classes. I didn’t know how to study, how to focus, how to even go about figuring out how to. I’m sure I did it wrong. Never thought about looking for help.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:52 am to macaronithepony
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Most decent psychologist will push behavioral therapy before meds. They will give the kid task to complete before their next appointment. Example would be getting the kid to organize their locker and backpack and school items before they come back. Kids with ADHD tend to be messy and super disorganized and one giant way to cope with ADHD without meds is to help the kid become more organized.
Actually true to an extent as far as creating a pattern of normalcy. BUT that doesn't magically fix the chemical difference in their brains. Anxiety and inability to focus are the main issues and this will do nothing to fix their seretonin levels for example, or inevitable social issues that follow later in life.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:54 am to GeauxOCDP
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Actually true to an extent as far as creating a pattern of normalcy. BUT that doesn't magically fix the chemical difference in their brains. Anxiety and inability to focus are the main issues and this will do nothing to fix their seretonin levels for example, or inevitable social issues that follow later in life.
Oh I agree with you I was just trying to explain that GOOD doctors just don't drug kids up. They actually want to help the child in life.
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